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re: Should being allowed to vote on property tax issues be contingent on property ownership?

Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Scruffy doesn’t think government employees or individuals who receive any funding from the government, i.e. welfare, should be allowed to vote at all.


Did you use TOPS? Have you taken the child tax credit? Did you recieve stimulus checks?

I guess I'll put you down as a no, or you can tear up your voters registration

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
102227 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:09 pm to
yes
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2120 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Renters pay property taxes too. Anyone who thinks rent isn't priced to account for taxes and insurance is in denial.


Imagine if all renters were given a breakdown of the apportionment of their rent so it showed how much property tax they were paying. And they were then allowed to deduct those property taxes like homeowners can.

And remember technically they pay more because there’s no homestead exemption for them.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6856 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:15 pm to
Make all taxes a sales tax, a consumption tax. Everyone gets to pay their 'fair' share. Then people will truly wake up.

Also a citizen should have to 33 years of age to vote.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
9327 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:15 pm to
Maybe NOLA has changed, but I thought you'd heard the spiel that accompanied so many votes for millages:

Vote for this millage, it will only afftect those who pay property taxes.
And remember you won't pay property tax if your exemption makes your property worth zero.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Make all taxes a sales tax, a consumption tax.


This is a great idea if you want to pay more taxes
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6856 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:19 pm to
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This is a great idea if you want to pay more taxes


I'm proposing removing all property taxes and replacing that lost revenue with an increase in sales taxes.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:19 pm to
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I'm proposing removing all property taxes and replacing that lost revenue with an increase in sales taxes.


I understand. My point still stands
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:22 pm to
Should proof of a positive tax burden be a prerequisite for voting on anything in general in this country?

No taxation without representation was the slogan. Not we demand representation without taxation.

They’re not the same thing.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Should proof of a positive tax burden be a prerequisite for voting on anything in general in this country?

No taxation without representation was the slogan. Not we demand representation without taxation.

They’re not the same thing.


1. Just because the government relieves you of the burden doesn't mean you aren't subject to taxation.

2. Are we adding up all taxes or are we picking and choosing based on your subjective criteria?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73208 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Did you use TOPS? Have you taken the child tax credit? Did you recieve stimulus checks? I guess I'll put you down as a no, or you can tear up your voters registration
Scruffy is currently a government employee.

He shouldn’t be allowed to vote because his pay comes from taxes.

No qualms here.

And you can regain your ability to vote by remaining off welfare for 2 years.

Also, I will give leeway on things like the stimulus checks. No one voted for those. Could you even opt out of those?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10709 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:25 pm to
People who don’t own property still pay those taxes. Do you think landlords charge rent rate at only mortgage/maintenance costs? Taxes are built into the rent, everyone pays it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Also, I will give leeway on things like the stimulus checks. No one voted for those. Could you even opt out of those?


No one is stopping you from sending that money back.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73208 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:29 pm to
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No one is stopping you from sending that money back.
That is true, therefore we will count it.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
13366 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:39 pm to
That is not the way it works and I have been bitching about that for years.
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:41 pm to
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Scruffy doesn’t think government employees or individuals who receive any funding from the government, i.e. welfare, should be allowed to vote at all.

jfc
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51962 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:52 pm to
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Scruffy is currently a government employee. He shouldn’t be allowed to vote because his pay comes from taxes. No qualms here. And you can regain your ability to vote by remaining off welfare for 2 years.


Scruffy, you’re typically a poster of good takes.

However, this is a really bad take.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73208 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 4:00 pm to
Why?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72037 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 4:02 pm to
Lets take it further. Democrats shouldn't be able to buy votes from people who dont have income.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72037 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Just because the government relieves you of the burden doesn't mean you aren't subject to taxation.

2. Are we adding up all taxes or are we picking and choosing based on your subjective criteria?



107 million people pay no income tax


quote:

Using adjusted Internal Revenue Service (IRS) data to include households that do not file tax returns and fewer filing households paying income tax, we arrive at a preliminary estimate of 61.1 percent of households not paying income tax in 2020, which is close to TPC’s model estimate.

The large portion of households paying no income tax illustrates that the U.S. income tax system is quite progressive, and that the tax system is increasingly being used to provide social benefits to households.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 4:08 pm
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