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I'm not a scientist but have a couple simple questions about climate change

Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:07 pm
I'm probably not going to read a lengthy scientific journal or some graphs or charts and discern from these if climate change is real and it's happening because of human activity. But these seem to be some really simple questions I can't ever get an honest answer from any of the climate zealots I talk to in my life...

1) There are buildings lined up all around the seaboard all over the world that have been there for hundreds of years. Let's use the statue of Liberty for example. If I look at an illustration of the SOL in 1886, when it was first open



The water looks right at the same level in 2022 as it did in 1886



Why is Lady Liberty not wading in water at this point if sea levels have risen? I had someone tell me sea levels will rise between 25-50 ft in the next 50 years. Yet they haven't risen at all apparently throughout the entire industrial revolution

2) Why does ocean front property continue to be the most valuable real estate in the world? And if sea levels were an issue, why wouldn't insurance companies and banks be making policies related to sea levels changing to protect themselves. We all know that no one covers their asses more than insurance companies and banks

3) Why do they keep changing the name to the climate crisis? Global cooling, greenhouse effect,, global warming, climate change, whatever they call it now.

4) Why do the very same people who have sounded the alarms on climate change, just so happen to benefit from it the most financially? Al Gore, Bill Gates, etc.

5) Why is nuclear power and natural gas never an option as alternative energy? When there is no carbon footprint? This would be the easiest solution if this was really an emergency

6) Why is China and India never discussed as a component to man made climate change? They are responsible for the vast majority of the world's carbon footprint. Yet I have never once heard a Democrat or someone in the MSM mention that as it being an issue. If we were staring down an Armageddon scenario, why wouldn't we be focusing most of our attention on them?

7) Why are all of their predictions wrong? When I visited Glacier National Park in 2008, they told me the glaciers would be gone in 10 years. There were signs up all over the park at every Glacier. Basically, "it's your last chance to see the glaciers, they will be gone in just a few years".. but juat a few years ago they quietly removed the signs, as the glaciers actually grew in size. And they had to admit their models predicting their melt failed, and that it would now be a later date. But unknown.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Sir Handel
Member since Jul 2022
54 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:09 pm to
Climate policy = punish White people/countries by sending money away or bringing third worlders here.

That's it.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23895 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:11 pm to
Political football #1

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

I'm not a scientist but have a couple simple questions about climate change


every single climate change activist goes to the coast and buys million dollar mansions literally 50 ft off the beach.

thats your answer, when they start selling and moving off the coasts then you can start believing their BS

climate change is a regular normal function of earths egg shapped orbit around the sun. it causes regular and very predictable warming and cooling periods every 20-30 yrs.

thats why all their fake climate models only go back 10-15 years so they dont show the regularly repeating changes
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52439 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:19 pm to
Man made climate change is a lie.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25464 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1856 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:21 pm to
Why doesn't natural immunity count towards being as immune from covid as the vaccinated. Reason - truth does not matter, only agenda and power. The media is the enemy of the people.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25464 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:22 pm to



Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31374 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:24 pm to
8) Why are some of y’all so damned adamant about climate change being false, that scientists are all in some kind of giant conspiracy about it, and want to keep polluting and destroying the environment?
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37735 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:24 pm to
8) why do climate change activists who harp on lowering our global carbon footprint fly privately everywhere and take private limos and cars to get to their private yachts and go to exclusive climate change agendas with other attendees who also fly private ?

Answer: they’re all hypocrites
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7700 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:25 pm to
It is the world's Greatest Scam.



Read this book and you won't worry about climate change again.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23895 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:25 pm to
Climate change will happen, no matter what we do.

The weather has been changing since weather started...

Mother Nature is in control, not humans.

We can certainly be good stewards, but trying to change the climate...that ain't gonna happen, IMO.

This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28160 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:26 pm to
Something Something just accept the science is settled
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23204 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Why is Lady Liberty not wading in water at this point if sea levels have risen? I had someone tell me sea levels will rise between 25-50 ft in the next 50 years. Yet they haven't risen at all apparently throughout the entire industrial revolution


Sea level is not as straight forward as you may think. So the SOL is built on bedrock. And the two renderings seem to indicate little has changed for sea level. Now on the other hand, 19th century forts built along the Mississippi south of New Orleans Louisiana may show a different picture. And that is because land is sinking in SE Louisiana relative to sea level. With sinking land and a static sea level the net result for the land is sea level rise. It is called relative sea level rise.

Sea level may rise in the future. It has in the past and has fallen as well.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54559 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

4) Why do the very same people who have sounded the alarms on climate change, just so happen to benefit from it the most financially? Al Gore, Bill Gates, etc.


Obama was so concerned with climate change he bought a multi million dollar beachfront estate.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3254 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:31 pm to
CO2 makes up .0452 % of our atmosphere. Nuff said. Don’t fall for the bs.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31985 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

8) Why are some of y’all so damned adamant about climate change being false, that scientists are all in some kind of giant conspiracy about it, and want to keep polluting and destroying the environment?



because the government keeps punishing/rewarding companies based on said falsehood and affecting all of our lives.

nobody WANTS to destroy the environment. i mean even the most evil MFer in the world isn't sitting around saying i WANT to do this. they just don't care and it's cheaper to not care.

i think you'd find most conservatives don't want pollution and think blatant violators should be punished. it's just that trying to "solve" this with the current economic policy comes off as a blatant power grab and wealth transfer to those paying attention.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1958 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:34 pm to
Climate change is manmade

The word, not the process of the climate actually changing
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35208 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:38 pm to
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5) Why is nuclear power and natural gas never an option as alternative energy? When there is no carbon footprint? This would be the easiest solution if this was really an emergency


Nuclear they bitch about the waste matter. I don't agree, but I get the argument.

Natural gas is the one I don't get. Last week they commissioned a new NG power plant in Niles. 350 acre site, the physical plant takes up 10 acres itself. It has mechanisms to recoup waste heat to power a boiler to generate even more power. It's incredibly low emissions and at peak capacity they said it will generate the same output as 8000 acres of solar panels.

Yes, a 10 acre extremely low emission plant generates the same power as 8000 acres of panels. It's amazing what possibilities could be.
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
2962 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:38 pm to
The kids bitching about the climate are probably the same ones wearing a fricking hooded sweatshirt and knit cap in July.
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