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College Degree or Work Experience?

Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5853 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:55 pm
At the beginning of the movie “Cocktail,” starring Tom Cruise, he’s fresh out of the Army. He is looking for jobs in the corporate world but keeps getting rejected due to no minimum requirement of a college degree.

In the beginning of “The Secret of My Success,” starring Michael J. Fox, after the job he initially was going to do before the company went under, he interviews at a few places. He’s rejected because while having a college degree, he had no work experience.

In real life, what’s more appealing? College Degree with little to no real life work experience or work experience with a college degree or no college degree?

Just a random thought.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119984 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:56 pm to
Work experience. When I’m hiring I don’t want anyone who has been groomed by some queer liberal professors.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10553 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:57 pm to
Depends on the job, the experience, the education, and the person.

College graduates are more educated, that is a fact. They may or may not be best for the job though.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:57 pm to
Work experience for sure at this point unless you’re going into a STEM field.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71756 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:58 pm to
When interviewing, I just throw one of these out on the table and see how it goes.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:59 pm to
I work with a couple of military guys. They are the worst. They spent 7 years as an E4 and don't do nothing. Just enough to get by but difficult to fire because they know a couple of people in middle management
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2736 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:59 pm to
I mean unless the resume says LSU for some common ground small talk, I don’t get caught up on college. I look for skill/personality fit.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6538 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:00 pm to
A college degree is screen device. It shows a person has been able to navigate and complete a certain system for 4 years relative to peers.

Work experience demonstrates what job specific roles they have performed and, sometimes, if they have been successful.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

work experience with a college degree
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6289 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:01 pm to
You want the hardest worker.
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
Member since Feb 2022
14683 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:02 pm to
IRL, you better know somebody.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9783 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:05 pm to
I can tell you from personal experience, I had 10 years worth of warehouse experience, which put me at the top of the line for warehouse supervisor positions and/or top forklift operator pay grades at larger companies. With the last company I worked for a while and could have moved into different roles that also didn't necessarily require a degree, like CAD, Inventory Planning, Project Management, etc.

The thing is those roles didn't pay that much more than what I was making working in the trenches, I'd start out less than those who were hired directly with a degree, and they required a lot more responsibility.

With all that experience, the most I could have hoped for was a role somewhere in the $45-50k range. And anything above I'd always be seen as someone with no degree.

Now I'm about to do grunt work at a small public accounting firm and I'll start at $55k and 6 weeks off. Once I get a busy season the wage increase is usually around 12% for this company, and then probably a lot more when I get my CPA license.

Just one man's experience, but frick what the blue collar Mitsubishi foreman says. Degree is certainly trumping experience right now.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Work experience for sure at this point unless you’re going into a STEM field.



exactly. very much depends on the field.

a scrub tech of 20 years just isnt hireable as a surgeon.
and i dont care if my ju jitsu guy has a masters in business.

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

College Degree or Work Experience?


the only thing a college degree stands for today is to say you are a lazy bum who doesnt want to work at any real job, you hate america, and would rather waste your time on political activism and pretending men have vaginas
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:12 pm to
Depends on the job. I’m not hiring some Joe with no degree to run an FP&A shop.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20597 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

At the beginning of the movie “Cocktail,” starring Tom Cruise, he’s fresh out of the Army. He is looking for jobs in the corporate world but keeps getting rejected due to no minimum requirement of a college degree.


Doesn't the Army pay for your college?
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:14 pm to
This is so true. Physics are taught on the job the Tesla factories for the hourly janitor.
Posted by Calen50
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2011
109 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:15 pm to
As others have said, more than just those two simple criteria go into a decision to hire someone. I can tell you from personal experience that not having a degree basically puts a cap on where you can go upwardly in most companies unless you really know someone. Gone are the days of you being able to go to work someplace and work your way up to middle management just on your work ethic and ability to know the business. Now they just hire someone with a degree to fill that position that they can train to run the peons how upper management thinks the peons should be handled.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15758 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

the only thing a college degree stands for today is to say you are a lazy bum who doesnt want to work at any real job, you hate america, and would rather waste your time on political activism and pretending men have vaginas


This screams I couldn’t make it through college.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4605 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:28 pm to
College degree with five years of experience.
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