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re: Do most school systems give kids IQ tests?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:13 pm to efrad
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:13 pm to efrad
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That's how I felt about gifted class too. It was always way more fun shite than regular class. In elementary school, anyway...
yea I gave it up in high school because I wanted to spend time chasing tail instead
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:27 pm to baybeefeetz
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Do most school systems give kids IQ tests?
Of course.
Public school administrators try to shamelessly avoid the topic. It’s involved parents who continuously engage who get it done. Often you need to just pay private practitioners to get the appropriate testing and accommodations necessary to ensure ideal placement.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:55 pm to JKLazurus
When I was going through this stuff an influential and wealthy member of the community wanted his daughter tested for the gifted program. She was tested at the same time I was and apparently she failed because she wasn't accepted.
Personally I think it would be fantastic if every kid got to experience the gifted program. It was a lot of fun - not sure how the costs would play out - but there are a lot of different "gifts" out there that don't involve standardized IQ scores.
As a 10 year old kid - getting to make choices like you make in college was pretty cool.
Personally I think it would be fantastic if every kid got to experience the gifted program. It was a lot of fun - not sure how the costs would play out - but there are a lot of different "gifts" out there that don't involve standardized IQ scores.
As a 10 year old kid - getting to make choices like you make in college was pretty cool.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:04 pm to cable
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Personally I think it would be fantastic if every kid got to experience the gifted program. It was a lot of fun - not sure how the costs would play out - but there are a lot of different "gifts" out there that don't involve standardized IQ scores.
As a 10 year old kid - getting to make choices like you make in college was pretty cool.
Essentially, the “gifted” programs are the last vestiges of a “classical” education before the advent of modern corporate-drone training became the educational norm. Except, you have to be extra, ultra special to get to experience it.
My school’s gifted program covered a lot of Ancient Greek mythology. There was also a shite ton of sketching and painting for creative enrichment....and brain teasers and riddles.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:52 pm to baybeefeetz
I don't know what's going on these days, but I seem to remember GT programs getting popular around 1975 or 1980. I'm from a large family of all boys until the last two, who were girls. My brothers and I just plodded along with the other derelicts at EJ. What's a n**** gonna do?
Meanwhile, my younger sisters were in elementary school and they were learning Japanese! WTF is up with that? (Semi-Comical Sidenote: My father was in the Air Force and stationed in Japan for a period of time during the Korean War. He knew a little Japanese from 30 years ago and would quiz my sisters. Meanwhile, I'm having troublewith English.)
My youngest sister, who is truly gifted and talented, and could have been anything she wanted, has gone on to be the administrator of a pre-school. Those are the happiest kids and parents, however much untapped potential she left on the deck.
Meanwhile, my younger sisters were in elementary school and they were learning Japanese! WTF is up with that? (Semi-Comical Sidenote: My father was in the Air Force and stationed in Japan for a period of time during the Korean War. He knew a little Japanese from 30 years ago and would quiz my sisters. Meanwhile, I'm having troublewith English.)
My youngest sister, who is truly gifted and talented, and could have been anything she wanted, has gone on to be the administrator of a pre-school. Those are the happiest kids and parents, however much untapped potential she left on the deck.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:56 pm to efrad
quote:how was the ride on those short busses?
in 2nd grade I began to be bussed once a week to a gifted class at another school.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:18 am to SuperSaint
Gifted means the kid is smart, talented means they can dance.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:37 am to OWLFAN86
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grades, performance
That’s how we rolled. 7 point grading scale as well. College was easier.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:45 am to SuperSaint
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how was the ride on those short busses?
Wasn't a short bus, but it was a blast because the bus driver assigned to that route DGAF what the kids on the bus did. Probably the opposite of your rides on the prisoner transport bus
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:47 am to baybeefeetz
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do most school systems have gifted and talented programs?
Gifted programs? No. Those are "racist." There are "enrichment" programs though. Basically just a one-period on campus field trip for the smart kids. Pretty boring for the gifted kids though.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 12:49 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:55 am to baybeefeetz
They’ve evolved over the years. I was part of the early days, when the programs were instituted in the 60’s to help “catch up” to the Russians after Sputnik. In our school some type of test was administered in kindergarten, cutoff was 130.
Implementation was actually bad, the kids were segregated from everyone else, even gym class was with the same kids. Finally scheduled myself out of some of the classes in high school when I had more control over my schedule. I think things have evolved since then, with kids now targeted to specific subjects vs an all or nothing approach.
Implementation was actually bad, the kids were segregated from everyone else, even gym class was with the same kids. Finally scheduled myself out of some of the classes in high school when I had more control over my schedule. I think things have evolved since then, with kids now targeted to specific subjects vs an all or nothing approach.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:28 am to OWLFAN86
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not based on IQ tests
Where we live is test score or 130+ iq to qualify for gifted.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:55 am to baybeefeetz
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What’s it based on?
If you have a mom or aunt that works at the public school, you're on the dance team and in all the gifted programs.
The dance team, not flag or cheer, the dance team.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:33 am to cable
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When I was going through this stuff an influential and wealthy member of the community wanted his daughter tested for the gifted program. She was tested at the same time I was and apparently she failed because she wasn't accepted.
There was a kid...son of professor, who kept getting tested to get into gifted until high school. He never made it
It was some big badge of honor for him to be in the Gifted classes for some reason.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:33 am to lsu777
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Where we live is test score or 130+ iq to qualify for gifted.
I always forget if it's 120 or 130.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:04 am to baybeefeetz
They put my "ex" in Gifted. Just to get her away from the
"other" Demographic of the school....
"other" Demographic of the school....
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:30 am to baybeefeetz
Yes, students are given IQ tests—both for gifted as well as SPED.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:55 am to baybeefeetz
We were given standardized testing every single year back in the 60's and early 70's. More than one test some years. IQ test was one of them. But I didn't go to public school
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
For some school systems the cutoff is usually 127 …because a score of 130 has a standard deviation of 3…(+3 or -3). That means there’s a high probability if the child took the test again they would score somewhere between 127 and 133.
Tests usually administered are the Weschler Preschool and Primary Scale of Intelligence (WPPSI), the Weschler Intelligence Scale for Children -V (WISC-V) … or the Stanford Binet Intelligence Scales.
There are also tests for creativity.
The WISC-V ( fifth edition) gives three scores: verbal scale, performance scale (nonverbal) and overall full scale IQ. Usually gifted program placement is based on the full scale but there are times when they have been placed based on their verbal or performance scores. Some students are gifted verbally or non verbally.
Teachers usually make referrals to the special education department based on a student’s performance in the classroom. Also… parent referrals are accepted. The special ex / school committee meets and decides if the referral for testing will be approved/ accepted.
The school system does not have to accept private testing results. They must consider it …but …aren’t required to accept the results. However… they usually do.
They follow state/federal/and local regulations.
Tests usually administered are the Weschler Preschool and Primary Scale of Intelligence (WPPSI), the Weschler Intelligence Scale for Children -V (WISC-V) … or the Stanford Binet Intelligence Scales.
There are also tests for creativity.
The WISC-V ( fifth edition) gives three scores: verbal scale, performance scale (nonverbal) and overall full scale IQ. Usually gifted program placement is based on the full scale but there are times when they have been placed based on their verbal or performance scores. Some students are gifted verbally or non verbally.
Teachers usually make referrals to the special education department based on a student’s performance in the classroom. Also… parent referrals are accepted. The special ex / school committee meets and decides if the referral for testing will be approved/ accepted.
The school system does not have to accept private testing results. They must consider it …but …aren’t required to accept the results. However… they usually do.
They follow state/federal/and local regulations.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:05 am to baybeefeetz
I was given one in high school. I remember it well. It was the day my parents realized I was grossly underachieving.
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