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American Airlines cuts service to 3 cities
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:49 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:49 am
They claim it's for a staff shortage - but they seem to be extremely timid about scaling up right now in what many think is a recession.
A few more declining midwestern cities are losing service, further isolating them from the 21st century economy. I'd be concerned about smaller cities in the south - like Alexandria, LA - losing service if this continues.
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A few more declining midwestern cities are losing service, further isolating them from the 21st century economy. I'd be concerned about smaller cities in the south - like Alexandria, LA - losing service if this continues.
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American Airlines has announced it will end services to three U.S. cities in the fall citing a “regional pilot shortage.”
The three cities that will no longer be serviced by the airline are Toledo, Ohio; Ithaca, New York; and Islip, New York, according to an airline spokesperson.
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Three regional carriers wholly owned by American — PSA Airlines, Envoy Air and Piedmont Airlines — recently announced contract agreements with American that include “significant pay increases” as part of efforts to attract and retain pilots, according to the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), a pilot union that represents the employees.
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:50 am to dewster
No more mean tweets! 
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:53 am to dewster
this is one of many reasons the "move somewhere less expensive" argument holds less and less water
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:54 am to dewster
Sounds like there just isn’t the necessary traffic in the rust belt
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:56 am to dewster
i mean, who actually wants to go to ohio anyways 
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:00 am to dewster
I hear Dallas is next
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:02 am to dewster
Where are the staffing issues? Locally or pilots and stewardess’? I’m curious? Our local airport was only paying like $14/ hour and only part time on purpose to avoid benefits for the desk agents. They were looking for a particular employee that just wanted the free flight benefit. So I’m curious if this is still the business model for their commuter airports?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:05 am to dewster
That's a shame. It'll be harder for me to fly to places I wouldn't want to go anyway.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:07 am to dewster
Unless you fly more than a few times a year, traveling an hour + to an airport is inconsequential.
But, I do prefer flying out of smaller airports, if the same number of stops to my destination are required.
But, I do prefer flying out of smaller airports, if the same number of stops to my destination are required.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:09 am to dewster
It is because of staff shortages. If pilots don't fly for X days, they have to get re-certified or something to that effect. Covid canceled many flights and many pilots sat idle. Now that demand is back, many pilots have said "F it" and the airlines are left short staffed.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:10 am to dewster
To be fair a lot of these small cities are only serviced because of government subsidies.
If the market cant support it they shouldnt fly there
And both Toledo and Islip are an hour away from a major international airport
If the market cant support it they shouldnt fly there
And both Toledo and Islip are an hour away from a major international airport
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:11 am to dewster
If it saves just one life.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:20 am to dewster
Flying American tomorrow. Could've been me.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:24 am to dewster
quote:S and Paul Allen only put their Gulfstreams down at tMost scenic runway in Louisiana right across town
. I'd be concerned about smaller cities in the south - like Alexandria, LA - losing service if this continues.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:40 am to dewster
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“regional pilot shortage.”
So from my understanding this is a self-inflicted wound by the FAA
They changed the minimum number of flight hours for pilots who wanted to fly for airlines to 1500hrs. It takes a very long time and is super expensive to work your way to that total time.
That policy change did not account for the high number of boomer pilots retiring. meaning the FAA made it harder to backfill vacancies right at the peak of the boomer mandatory age of retirement (65)
Beginner commercial pilots do not earn a great wage, regional pilots used to not get paid well but the shortage has helped boost their salaries. Most new pilots are racked with debt from all of the trainings and flight hours they have to pay for.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:45 am to dewster
Too bad they shut down the travel board.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:05 am to dewster
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like Alexandria, LA
I'll be honest, I'm shocked they would operate there anyway. It's not far from Lafayette (an hr and change)
I could see how those pilots are better suited flying busier routes and_or bigger planes
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:15 am to dewster
Didn’t carefully read through all the replies, but AA has already said AEX was getting cut.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:33 am to dewster
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I'd be concerned about smaller cities in the south - like Alexandria, LA - losing service if this continues.
United already left. It’s a shame. Ellick has a nice little airport.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:46 am to dewster
Ithaca will still have service from Delta and United.
Islip is served by Southwest.
Toledo has the hardest hit here, their only other carrier serving them is Allegiant. But Detroit is only 45 minutes away.
Islip is served by Southwest.
Toledo has the hardest hit here, their only other carrier serving them is Allegiant. But Detroit is only 45 minutes away.
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