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re: I still love Will Wade
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:23 pm to Rohan Gravy
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:23 pm to Rohan Gravy
Terrible in game coach
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:06 pm to StatMaster
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Will Wade was not a good in game coach and that was not changing
Yes, because all good coaches reached their ceiling before their 40th birthday.
Thanks for playing...
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:09 pm to xiv
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s and won one tournament game.
Such a dumb gaslighting take. It’s so stupid this is reiterate by multiple people. While technically correct, his teams were 3-3 in the tournament and he was not allowed to coach for the games his team won. If he had coached, the team’s record would likely have been better. On top of that, the NCAA and LSU AD were falling over themselves to screw over the team/Wade and create as much controversy as possible at tournament time.
I get it that people don’t like Wade. Fine, but let’s not pretend his teams consistently flopped in the tournament. That’s not true at all.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:31 pm to Rohan Gravy
Hopefully, LSU's new coach will do more than engage in a lot of big talk.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:41 pm to mytigger
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I loved WW too, but in hindsight he was never going to deliver a Natty for us.
I'm not willing to go that far.
He obviously recruited well. And in his first (and only) year operating under the one free transfer rule he pulled in a starter from a No 1. seed the season before (Miller) and a largely unknown reserve from Cincinnati...who immediately became a 1st team All SEC player and 6th man of the year en route to likely becoming a 1st round draft pick.
For 4 years his teams were elite offensively. The defense was terrible and needed to be fixed. I think the fact they were a top 5 defense last season showed he could do it. Wade's biggest strength and weakness was his hubris. He never accepted LSU "place" in the basketball hierarchy and from day one felt the program could be a powerhouse. He approached the job from that perspective and it produced the most consistent period of winning in 30 years. His hubris, IMO, was also the reason his teams were always terribly imbalanced. He 100% believed in his approach and seemingly refused to alter it to fit his personnel. The 19-20 and 20-21 didn't have the personnel to play the style of defense Wade wanted to play. It didn't matter. He played it anyway and it led to terrible results on that side of the ball. Conversely, the 21-22 team did not have the personnel to play the style of offense the prior teams did. It didn't matter. LSU tried to play that same offense...to bad results.
I believe Wade was going to be on his way towards tweaking things to find that necessary balance to be great. Remember, he would have only turned 40 during next season. Obviously, that isn't going to happen, so there is no way to substantiate such definitive statements.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:50 pm to Rohan Gravy
Love WW. Wont speak a bad word about him. Genuine man from everything people have said about him.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:11 pm to Rohan Gravy
Will Wade reminded me of that rich kid who threw a fit when he didn't get what he wanted.. He was always crying to a ref about a call, very easy to dislike for people not wearing purple and gold.. So getting caught on FBI wire taps doesn't get him fired years prior, but some other violation did? Was this another BS excuse like the athletic department gave coach O?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:15 pm to RidiculousHype
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Imagine the odds of being inadvertently surveilled by the FBI. He has to be thinking he's the unluckiest person on the planet
This
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:22 pm to RammerJammer28
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Will Wade reminded me of that rich kid who threw a fit when he didn't get what he wanted
Yeah. Who wants a coach constantly throwing fits on the sideline?
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RammerJammer28
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:08 pm to JR Hamilsbach
quote:Another reason it won’t be hard for McMahon to be better than Wade.
he was not allowed to coach
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:20 pm to ellessuuuu
quote:ah yes, the "young coach still learning" excuse.
The upside is he was winning at a very high level while learning.
As of last year, Will Wade had been a college coach for 16 years, with the last 9 years as a D-I head coach.
Do coaches keep learning? Sure.
But the "young coach" excuse doesn't work anymore for Wade.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:00 pm to atltiger6487
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ah yes, the "young coach still learning" excuse.
As of last year, Will Wade had been a college coach for 16 years, with the last 9 years as a D-I head coach.
Do coaches keep learning? Sure.
But the "young coach" excuse doesn't work anymore for Wade.
Before the age of 40, how many coaches have won a P5 conference title? How many have taken a middle of pack P5 team to 4 straight NCAA tournaments?
Look at Cal, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Bruce Pearl, how many of those guys accomplished these things in the first 9 seasons as a HC?
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:06 pm to GEAUX5
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and people hated him
I don't know anyone that hated Will Wade
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:13 pm to Rohan Gravy
What he did in his first season in the NIT game (and the post-game press conference) vs ULL was stuff of legend.
Memory Lane
Wade the Savage
Memory Lane
Wade the Savage
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:17 pm to ellessuuuu
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Before the age of 40, how many coaches have won a P5 conference title? How many have taken a middle of pack P5 team to 4 straight NCAA tournaments? Look at Cal, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Bruce Pearl, how many of those guys accomplished these things in the first 9 seasons as a HC?
Way to cherry pick stats to fit your opinion. Will Wade has only 2 tournament wins in 9 years of being a head coach.
Some of the other guys you mentioned had a final 4 under their belt within 9 years.
It’s interesting how some people need to play the what if game to justify WW success. When the facts are he has little to no postseason success in 9 years as a coach.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:17 pm to Rohan Gravy
I still love Will Wade so much that each night I go to bed, I turn my A/C thermostat down to 68 F.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:25 pm to kciDAtaE
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Some of the other guys you mentioned had a final 4 under their belt within 9 years.
Which ones?
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It’s interesting how some people need to play the what if game to justify WW success. When the facts are he has little to no postseason success in 9 years as a coach.
He inherited a dumpster fire at age 34 and took us to the tournament 4 straight times (yes I'm counting 2020 we were safely in) and his teams (yes I see that you don't want to count wins his team earned while he was suspended - yet you will probably count the losses against him) advanced to the Sweet 16 and only once lost in the first round.
Don't need to play "what if" that is the most consistent success LSU had in 30 years.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:32 pm to ellessuuuu
Dumpster fire? LSU was not the dumpster fire people say when WW took over. They had one bad year before he took over. Before that they finished 3rd in conference in back to back years. One of which was a sweet 16 appearance. Which is further than a WW coached team ever went in his career.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:35 pm to TigerLunatik
Wade was a table setter that proved you can win and win consistently here. I don’t think a guy like McMahon has much interest in this job if he were taking over the program Johnny Jones left
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