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re: Green jeans tried to fine me after I reported a deer that was poached

Posted on 6/7/22 at 11:59 am to
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5865 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 11:59 am to
As someone else said, most of them are there to collect revenue and collect a pension. It's sad but true. I know some great LEOs but I know a large amount of them don't care. I had a LEO come into Bowie when I worked there and was asking me about new proposed gun control laws. I was telling him "well, they can pass what they want but good cops just won't enforce any of it". And he said "well we have to listen to our superiors, we have families and mouths to feed". I was pissed.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30874 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Not sure about down in LA.


If you are on private property and do not have written permission you can be ticketed, or if you can get landowner or their (for the non binary)agent on phone. No sign needed
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted by JohnWicksDawg
Member since Mar 2018
358 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:20 pm to
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I was telling him "well, they can pass what they want but good cops just won't enforce any of it".
Can you imagine the turmoil if every LEO were allowed to pick which laws to enforce ??
Jury nullification in this country is bad enough as it is.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:39 pm to
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caught the guy on camera and reported it. Green jean came out to the property

I hate to say it because it really shouldn't be like this but........ Never ever never invite green jeans onto your property. They have become irresponsible in their enforcement techniques the last couple of decades.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Can you imagine the turmoil if every LEO were allowed to pick which laws to enforce ??

They do that now
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20661 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

. I had a LEO come into Bowie when I worked there and was asking me about new proposed gun control laws. I was telling him "well, they can pass what they want but good cops just won't enforce any of it". And he said "well we have to listen to our superiors, we have families and mouths to feed".


What do you expect them to say? To be fair to LEO, I think there's a big difference between stopping current crime, crime prevention, and investigating minor past offenses.

There's A LOT of game laws that are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things, but when that neighbors dog won't stop running through your property mid deer season its a pretty big deal to you.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5865 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:08 pm to
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What do you expect them to say? To be fair to LEO, I think there's a big difference between stopping current crime, crime prevention, and investigating minor past offenses.

Remember what you are asking for here. They will kill people to take guns if it comes to feeding their family. The standard for enforcement should be "does this hurt anybody or infringe on someone else's rights". That is it.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7401 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:12 pm to
Moral of the story...Don't ever report anything to green jeans. It's an invitation for them to snoop around and write tickets.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5126 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:37 pm to
never call anyone who works for any kind of governmental agency unless its a life and death situation
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29409 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:42 pm to
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Put your signs 5 ft up from the ground and use purple paint on trees, posts, or whatever your using for a property line marker


Not a requirement in Louisiana. As mentioned before the land does not have to be posted.


However, within R.S. 14:63 Criminal trespass it states:
" J. Although not required by this Section, notice that entrance upon any structure, watercraft, movable, or immovable property owned by another is prohibited may be indicated by either of the following:

(1) A sign or signs posted on or in the property at a place or places where such sign or signs may be reasonably expected to be seen.

(2) The placement of identifying purple paint marks on the trees or posts on the property, provided that such marks are:

(a) Vertical lines of not less than eight inches in length and not less than one inch in width.

(b) Placed so that the bottom of the mark is not less than three feet from the ground nor more than five feet from the ground.

(c) Placed at locations that are readily visible to any person approaching the property and no more than one hundred feet apart on forest land, as defined in R.S. 3:3622, or one thousand feet apart on land other than forest land."

Also, no one the age of 10 or under can be arrested or detained for trespass.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3938 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Put your signs 5 ft up from the ground and use purple paint on trees, posts, or whatever your using for a property line marker


Crazy that one has to do this. What if one owns 500 acres? Supposed to walk that perimeter every few months to check for signs? Shoot that's $250 of signs!

I also would not invite greenjeans anywhere near my property. For every productive and kind one, there are twenty of them that have an ax to grind and nothing to do. It's like reminding the teacher that they forgot to assign you homework. Fly under that radar unless you have a serious problem.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7032 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:21 pm to
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I was telling him "well, they can pass what they want but good cops just won't enforce any of it". And he said "well we have to listen to our superiors, we have families and mouths to feed". I was pissed.


thats when you reply back...

"Until you no long breathe out of that mouth"
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30874 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Remember what you are asking for here. They will kill people to take guns if it comes to feeding their family. The standard for enforcement should be "does this hurt anybody or infringe on someone else's rights". That is it.


in the immediate aftermath of Katrina, they took guns from law abiding citizens that were defending their homes and their lives.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Green jeans tried to fine me after I reported a deer that was poached


the lie is that they care about and are there to protect the resources.

they have one job only, to collect revenue and give out as many tickets as they can any time they can.

i called to report poachers running illegal gill nets in lafourche and they were only questioning me about where i was and what i was doing rather then asking anything about the illegal netters so i just told them they have all the info i can provide about the outlaws they seemed to not care about and i hung up.

another time i called about finding at least a dozen dead pelicans washed up on shore in one spot and it was very odd. but once again, every question was all about me and what i was doing, rather then about the birds and the area they could be found.

they are not your friends, and never will be, do nothing to intentionally go anywhere near them, and for damn sure never call them for anything.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135225 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:47 pm to
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What do you expect them to say? To be fair to LEO, I think there's a big difference between stopping current crime, crime prevention, and investigating minor past offenses.

There's A LOT of game laws that are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things, but when that neighbors dog won't stop running through your property mid deer season its a pretty big deal to you.


The point is that they ultimately do what their bosses tell them to do. That part when they're sworn in where they vow to defend the Constitution is complete bullshite.

Their job is to enforce the whims of whatever politician or unelected bureaucrat is over them. That's it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81969 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:49 pm to
Any idea why purple?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

in the immediate aftermath of Katrina, they took guns from law abiding citizens that were defending their homes and their lives.


Because the criminals won't give theirs up
I'm sick of this over-reaching enforcement BS
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:54 pm to
It’s interesting that in between your boot licking you admit that they aren’t there to enforce all of the laws. Just the ones they choose.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14263 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Any idea why purple?
Purple paint has been an Arkansas deal for a while, looks like LA has followed suit.

It's true no markings or signs are needed, as they used to be, but it will help your case. But usually, the DA has "bigger fish to fry."
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29409 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Any idea why purple?


My guess is that I have seen surveyors use white, yellow and an orange/red but I have never seen purple in the woods.

In the grand tradition of bad drafting of Louisiana code and statues, it is a weird tacked on addition to a statue, were no signage or marking is required, that it lists possible signage and marking that you might use. And don't even try to figure out why non-forested land would only be marked every 1,000 feet.


Edit to add: A little google research shows that about 15 states have adopted that color for "no trespassing". Seems to have started in Arkansas.

This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 3:16 pm
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