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Were the Anti-vaxxers Right all Along?

Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:58 am
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:58 am
I'm not just talking about Covid here, but before then. There has been a very vocal and very ostracized segment of society for decades that have been claiming that vaccines are bad science. And that the programs were being run by evil people.

Seems to me they hit the latter on the head. The question is in the former.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to
No, they were not. We'd still be getting smallpox and polio otherwise.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20452 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to
well if it wasn't true, then its sure is now.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1540 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:01 pm to
I think in general, vaccines are good science. I'm glad I didn't get polio, for example. But each vaccine needs to stand on its own - and I'm not sure an experimental mRNA vaccine doesn't cause more damage than it cures.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22856 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:02 pm to
No. Most vaccines are solid science that wasn’t political and protects from things that are actually serious. You could make solid arguments against the rate we vaccinate people at age wise though. People who are against the Covid vaccines by a large majority are not anti vaxxers leftist are just idiots who don’t comprehend nuance.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79325 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:02 pm to
They're probably right in the sense that you can't really rely on expert consensus or media/government pressure to be in your best interest

But they're not right in the sense that just like the COVID debacle, those against the vaccines suffer from confirmation bias and will swallow 20 lies by bad actors but believe the 1 unpopular truth they adopt makes their entire approach valid.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131479 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:03 pm to
Vaccines are great.

mRNA therapy is not a vaccine.

Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15368 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:06 pm to
I think anyone who’s against vaccines as a whole, are crazy. There are vaccines that are 100% legit, and we needed them, like polio or smallpox vaccines. I do understand people’s hesitancy when it comes to flu or covid shots though. Those are not as effective as other vaccines out there, mostly because the flu and covid viruses, are different than polio or smallpox viruses.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

I'm not just talking about Covid here,


Good, because the therapeutic mRNA shot is not a vaccine
Posted by LC Baw
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2021
234 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:11 pm to
The difference is the shots for polio, smallpox, etc. are vaccines. The Fauci Ouchie is not but it was touted as one all along until it wasn't when the "breakthrough cases" started popping up
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9058 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:12 pm to
Call me crazy but, I don't think anyone should be forced to take something.

If it costs them, so be it.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30477 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:20 pm to
At least there is SOME data on prior vaccines.

I took the Prevnar with some years of data behind it. Not 12 months and an EUA.

But I became anti flu vax because I never got the flu until my company made me get the vax.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:22 pm to
Most vaccines historically have been well researched and properly vetted.

The CoVid juice was absolute trash from the start promoted by corrupt politicians and greedy corporate bastards.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2444 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:26 pm to
Depends on the vaccine
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2363 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:27 pm to
I think most of us are making "informed" decisions about vaccine safety with little information and even less understanding and I think this phenomenon is rampant in every aspect of healthcare, starting with nutrition.

By the time you start scrutinizing the practice of Big Pharma, you begin to realize how curated the flow of information is.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
6433 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:35 pm to
If 50% of the population that's 'vaccinated' still get the disease it isn't a vaccine.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68239 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:36 pm to
they were right not to call it a vaccine

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14516 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:39 pm to
No, both groups are hysterical fear mongers.
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
Member since Jul 2016
536 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:43 pm to
Yes. Read the book “what your dr may not tell you about children’s vaccination” by Stephanie Cave.

My kids are vaccinated, but I’m kicking myself for blindly trusting “the science” rather than doing my own independent research. Read this book and you’ll be sick about it all
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Were the Anti-vaxxers Right all Along?


No.
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