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I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:05 pm
10 people were killed. Sounds like no death penalty in NY though
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:08 pm to thelawnwranglers
Yeah. I’d say murder is about as hateful as it gets.
But it’s just a term to appease the crazy lefties. It only applies one way though. Crimes against whites are not hateful
But it’s just a term to appease the crazy lefties. It only applies one way though. Crimes against whites are not hateful
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:10 pm to AUTigerking
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But it’s just a term to appease the crazy lefties. It only applies one way though. Crimes against whites are not hateful
Is there more penalty or prosecution options?
I am in your camp murder is as hateful as it gets
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:10 pm to AUTigerking
I mean hell, every crime is a hate crime if you want to be honest. Breaking into my home stealing stuff from me is hateful as it can get. Shooting someone because they’re black isn’t anymore hateful than robbing someone because they’re rich.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:10 pm to thelawnwranglers
Hate crime is only applicable if the perp is white.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:12 pm to thelawnwranglers
Just a law on the books that they passed so they could selectively enforce it against a certain race of people.
Been on the books for years. Hope this realization will wake people up to the long term game they have been playing and winning for a very long time.
Been on the books for years. Hope this realization will wake people up to the long term game they have been playing and winning for a very long time.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:13 pm to RobertFootball
I watch news a little and basically police said they would treat as hate crime
Well of course it is, but what does that mean. Legally
Well of course it is, but what does that mean. Legally
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:15 pm to thelawnwranglers
If New York does not have the death penalty, he will be prosecuted under the Federal murder charge which being a hate crime opens the option of the death penalty at the federal level. But I'm no lawyer. Just like to stay at a certain hotel chain.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:18 pm to thelawnwranglers
Politics. White bastards commit hate crimes. Black guys shoot up Chicago, New Orleans, etc, run down people with intent at Christmas parades, and get a hardy hand shake and a 100 dollar bill for their vote.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:18 pm to thelawnwranglers
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don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?
It add a Thought Crime to it.
The act is still the same, but what you were THINKING is also a crime.
This way, we can decouple the violent part of the crime from the thought part, and be left with a separate thought only crime in the near future.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:19 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Has the question of the constitutionality of hate laws ever been raised to SCOTUS?
Now would be the time!
Now would be the time!
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:21 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?
1. It automatically increases the severity of the sentence if convicted.
2. It can be prosecuted in federal court as well as state court.
3. Federal courts can sentence him to death since he committed murder in the process of committing another felony with hate crime being the other felony.
Not saying that it will be prosecuted on the federal level or he will get the death penalty, but charging him with and likely convicting him with puts the death penalty on the table in a state that doesn't have a death penalty.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:23 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?
It adds that the shooter was white, so white man bad
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:24 pm to thelawnwranglers
All crimes are hateful.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:24 pm to thelawnwranglers
It’s horrible situations either way but I think Proper Thought dictates if this Buffalo wack-job had not been a hateful white racist, these people wouldn’t have died whereas in Chicago, Milwaukee, Baltimore, etc. all those people who die every week …….. well, shite happens. But at least those people didn’t/won’t die due to racism.
I believe that’s what Proper Thought teaches.
I believe that’s what Proper Thought teaches.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:47 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?
It adds a way to further fan the flames to divide this country.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:47 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Sounds like no death penalty in NY though
There isn't. Yet in Texas he would most certainly be facing the death penalty. After all we put two (out of three) to death for James Byrd Jr.'s murder, yet we're supposedly the racists here in Texas.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:48 pm to thelawnwranglers
It seems to depend on who the DA is in your city.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:48 pm to GeauxTigerTM
We do the same with terrorism, if the act was politically or ideologically motivated the perpetrator can be sentenced, tried to a different standard.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 3:57 pm to WeeWee
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It can be prosecuted in federal court
That’s the sole reason for the law, in many cases it allows the federal government to take control over a state issue whenever they see fit.
As others have said, the feds are quite selective when it comes to this “law”. Wonder why that is…
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