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re: I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?

Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:00 pm to
It is a sentence enhancement.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36058 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:07 pm to
Punish the deed. You can’t read a person’s mind,
This guy should fry.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67991 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:11 pm to

criminalizing human emotions will never prevent human emotions
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2895 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:12 pm to
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It is a sentence enhancement.


We all know that.

There should be no higher sentence than capital murder.

Its the same as the dumbasses calling for a longer sentence for murdering a police officer.

It doesent matter how ( other than the fact you planned it) or who you murdered its all the same.

Black ,brown white, yellow, police, mayor etc.

Nobodys life is worth more than anyone elses.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2226 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:13 pm to
Pretty easy to understand. Whitey kills someone= hate crime. Whitey killed by POC= love crime.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:17 pm to
It adds a First Amendment violation by definition. Hate crimes are per se unconstitutional.
Posted by Beaver Bandit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2015
661 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:20 pm to
South Park explained it best.

Hate Crime Laws - A Savage Hypocrisy YT
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64678 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:45 pm to
It means they can hate you back more.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25094 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 4:51 pm to
It's thought crime.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18075 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:15 pm to
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Has the question of the constitutionality of hate laws ever been raised to SCOTUS? Now would be the time!


I agree with you. I feel like I need a shower, now.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26440 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:16 pm to
It’s institutionalized virtue signaling, and nothing more.

All thought crimes are ridiculous.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38795 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:17 pm to
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New York does not have the death penalty, he will be prosecuted under the Federal murder charge which being a hate crime opens the option of the death penalty at the federal level. But I'm no lawyer. Just like to stay at a certain hotel chain.


Oh good
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27381 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:18 pm to
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I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?


Dude deserves death whether hate or not. I don't care his reasoning. I think the left and the right can agree to go ahead and exterminate him. Why waste tax money? I think down the line it will finally be exposed that this was a leftists who was triggered by 4chan and chose suicide by mass shooting to what he thinks is "finally winning a point." Very convenient for mid-terms coming up.
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
1966 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:26 pm to
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Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38795 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 5:28 pm to
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other words, democrats are really for the death penalty, but only when it can be selectively used against white people.


I think we can all agree to dry this guy
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47920 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 6:54 pm to
It’s a political tool nothing more.
Posted by Nevada
Member since Nov 2019
425 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 6:56 pm to
Nailed it!
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11512 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 6:58 pm to
Hate crimes were invented to charge people who didn't commit a crime with a crime.

It is the thought police, using it as an enhancer on a real crime does nothing.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103780 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:31 pm to
Some people commit crimes because they have been victims their whole lives and it is not their fault when they act out. Other people are born hateful with hateful parents and commit crimes only for that reason.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

I don't understand hate crime - what does that add to crime?
Two classes of harm arise from crime: harm to the victim and harm to society. The latter harm motivates the additional punishment.

If you kill someone, the harm to the victim is the same regardless of the motivation of the assailant. But the harm to society is arguably greater for a crime motivated by a factor which would likely lead to recurrences.

That is the theory, anyway.
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