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re: Texas people: ERCOT warning

Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:26 am to
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3470 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:26 am to
Was this whole system Enron’s fault? I read the book, but I is not a smart.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25935 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:26 am to
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Yes. And not unique to Texas. It’s just been the in thing to report on after the winter 2021 storms.


Got it. I mean I would get some of these things from Entergy in Louisiana but they were rare….these from ercot are coming into my inbox every hot weekend with a high above 95.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
13171 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:36 am to
you people act like they can fix the grid in a year or two, you have to study and plan for years, find an area, go through the clusterfrick of regulation, then it takes multiple years to design and construct a new combined cycle power plant

what's more concerning is how 6 plants trip offline in such a short period of time
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 11:38 am
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25935 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:38 am to
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you people act like they can fix the grid in a year or two, you have to study and plan for years, find an area, go through the clusterfrick of regulation, then it takes multiple years to design and construct a new combined cycle power plant


Agree and disagree. The state/ federal (for NERC) bodies could do more to remove barriers like permitting, etc to expedite things. But yeah, GE and Siemens don’t have gas turbines sitting on the shelf.

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what's more concerning is how 6 plants trip offline in such a short period of time


Exactly. Thats a sign it’s probably systemic…problem with NG supply or grid management
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6912 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:45 am to
It's basically like living in California, just without the mild weather and beaches to make it worth it
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9697 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:48 am to
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The commies have infiltrated Texas state politics, of course!


The hell they have! Get outside of the inner cities and it’s as red as ever. Every suburb county tied to the major cities is dark red. The rural areas are majority red.

This whole thought process that Texas is turning blue is nonsense. Not gonna happen. Never gonna happen. Keep dreaming. Find something else to hate about Texas.

It’s all a political agenda to get people talking and over thinking. Nothing is wrong with the power grid. Don’t believe it.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 11:50 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12443 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:49 am to
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PUCT has been shitting the bed for years as the population of TX increases.


FIFY. Politics is 100% the reason for the problems Texas is having and it will get a lot worse. ERCOT only tries to manage best they can within the regulations that are placed on them.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11714 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:54 am to
Not since ERCOT failed miserably during the Tundra moment a couple of years ago. Likely hedging their bets
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13504 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:05 pm to
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ERCOT has been shitting the bed for years as the population of TX increases.

I wonder when/if the DOE and ERCOT will realize that the renewable push is completely fricking up the grid and they had better have a come to Jesus realization that killing the on demand sources (coal, natural gas, nuclear) is crippling the US grid.

The grid continues to be be taxed more and more and they stray further and further away from reliable megawatt sources. Anytime logic is replaced by political pandering influences, nothing ever goes right.
Posted by Sal Minio
17th Street Canal
Member since Sep 2006
4199 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:07 pm to
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shitting the bed?


Don't use this term, no originality. You are better than this.
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5277 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:09 pm to
Its still outage season. So plants tend to be trippy because they aren't up to speed. Plus ERCOT push some scheduled maintenance so proper fixes haven't been completed.

Also, ERCOT is extra sensitive these days.

Source: I trade gas for a large power generator.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13504 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:10 pm to
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It's basically like living in California, just without the mild weather and beaches to make it worth it

Luckily, there are enough Texans and conservative thinkers to balance out the fricked up Californians that continue to flock into the state.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12443 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:15 pm to
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wonder when/if the DOE and ERCOT will realize that the renewable push is completely fricking up the grid


Just wait until all the gigantic crypto loads start energizing. China is kicking them out for this while Texas is welcoming with open arms.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
43467 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Prepare yourself for 5 months of 100 degree days and zero rain

Been there and done that - McAllen, TX - we didn’t have AC then either and it’s why I prefer Brownsville

Anyway - maybe ERCOT bribed the illegals with formula to trip the plants with the cell phones that were given to them
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
884 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:18 pm to
While Texas does have its own power grid and is theoretically independent with the majority of Texas being supplied by the regional transmission organization ERCOT, Texas also has plants in the SPP RTO and has DC cross ties between the Eastern Interconnection and Western Interconnection through DC ties to SPP.
So while Texas can be mostly power supply independent, it does have back up capabilities and those back up ties kept ERCOT from going into the black during the major ice storms in January and February of 2021.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20526 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:19 pm to
But look on the bright side, Texas’ power grid is independent of outside systems. Enjoy that while sweating!
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51958 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:20 pm to
I’ve lived in Texas for clues to a decade now and the ice storm in 21 is literally the only time the power has so much as blinked.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13504 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:27 pm to
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Just wait until all the gigantic crypto loads start energizing. China is kicking them out for this while Texas is welcoming with open arms.

I'm not in Texas, but I know a little (very little) about this. From what I understand, these are loads that pull from the system, correct? Are they factories, or what exactly?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39587 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:33 pm to
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it’s conservative enough, not many dindus


(78.3%) White, (2.8%) African American.

Your cultural needs are tragically underserved. They should start running busses to you, from areas that are overserved, within a week. Equality, and whatnot...
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
43467 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 12:36 pm to
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(78.3%) White, (2.8%) African American.

What is the other 18.9%?
Asians? Hispanics? Aliens?

I’ll get the first bus from BR put together to go see SS
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