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re: Sides for rice & gravy

Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:54 am to
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What do you call the meat then, and how is in not the entree?

It's understood that the meat comes with the rice and gravy. It's part of the entrée. The entire entrée is the meat, the gravy, and the rice. Think of it like a gumbo (yes I'm aware that gumbo is served as a side dish at many restaurants, but that's not how it's served at home).

If it makes you feel better I usually clarify the type of protein when I say that I have rice and gravy. Round steak, beef roast, pork chop, pork roast, pork sausage, etc...
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32964 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:56 am to
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Are you under the impression that rice and gravy is solely a Louisiana thing?

What are you referring to as rice and gravy that is served in other parts of the country? Serious question. I'm assuming it's not the same cajun meal that we're referring to.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59513 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

What are you referring to as rice and gravy that is served in other parts of the country? Serious question. I'm assuming it's not the same cajun meal that we're referring to.


What are you referring to as "rice and gravy" that you think is so different than a "rice and gravy" served elsewhere?

Not to just turn your question back around to you, but the answer to your question is that it kind of runs the gamut. I've seen everything (and made quite a few) from just the meat drippings poured over rice to a slowly cooked, almost stew like dish that's poured over rice.

ETA: By the way, I am admittedly being a little tongue in cheek in this thread.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32964 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

What are you referring to as "rice and gravy" that you think is so different than a "rice and gravy" served elsewhere?

Not to just turn your question back around to you, but the answer to your question is that it kind of runs the gamut. I've seen everything (and made quite a few) from just the meat drippings poured over rice to a slowly cooked, almost stew like dish that's poured over rice.


When you're seeing this, is it referred to as "rice and gravy", or beef stew, or something of that nature? In South Louisiana "Rice and Gravy" is the name for the dish, not a descriptor of the dish. I think that may be the hold up here.

It's a classic French cooking technique that was adapted using the ingredients that we had available here in South Louisiana (ie using bell pepper rather than carrots in the mirepoix), so sure there is probably some variation of the dish in other parts of the country that have French influence.

What you're doing is akin to others who say gumbo is just soup, and they have soup everywhere.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3551 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:54 pm to
Right.

You know how everyone down here calls any soda a Coke?

Same thing with any kind of meat + gravy + rice. Just rice and gravy beb.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59513 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

When you're seeing this, is it referred to as "rice and gravy", or beef stew, or something of that nature? In South Louisiana "Rice and Gravy" is the name for the dish, not a descriptor of the dish. I think that may be the hold up here.

It's a classic French cooking technique that was adapted using the ingredients that we had available here in South Louisiana (ie using bell pepper rather than carrots in the mirepoix), so sure there is probably some variation of the dish in other parts of the country that have French influence.

What you're doing is akin to others who say gumbo is just soup, and they have soup everywhere.


Bro, I grew up in South Louisiana, and my family has been living down there since the early 19th century. I understand the cuisine.
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
1065 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

It's a classic French cooking technique that was adapted using the ingredients that we had available here in South Louisiana (ie using bell pepper rather than carrots in the mirepoix), so sure there is probably some variation of the dish in other parts of the country that have French influence.



HOLY shite! That's really funny. Except every grandmother in the south knows how to smother meat (cook it down in its own jus/ gravy). Round steak, beef tips, pork steaks, roasts etc aren't unique to South Louisiana. And you're not doing anything that is not a well versed practice throughout the country, especially in the south. The ONLY difference is for some stupid fricking reason y'all call the dish "rice and gravy" instead of calling it by whatever the protein is.

The rest of the planet:
Q- What's for lunch?
A- Beef tips, w/ rice and gravy, peas and cornbread.

Coonasses:
Q- What's for lunch?
A- Rice n gravy, beb

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32964 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:22 pm to
Well, you're being very obtuse in this thread then
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3551 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:34 pm to


Who gives a shite, I bet you'd eat this rice and gravy regardless.

You get mad when brits call it fish and chips without specifying the mfin scientific classification of the fish?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32964 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:40 pm to
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HOLY shite! That's really funny. Except every grandmother in the south knows how to smother meat (cook it down in its own jus/ gravy). Round steak, beef tips, pork steaks, roasts etc aren't unique to South Louisiana. And you're not doing anything that is not a well versed practice throughout the country, especially in the south. The ONLY difference is for some stupid fricking reason y'all call the dish "rice and gravy" instead of calling it by whatever the protein is.


Are you trying to argue that it's not a French cooking technique? Because you'd be wrong. And, what is the state with the most French influence in the South?

Why do you give a shite what it's called? You sound like a miserable frick, go move somewhere else if you despise this place so much.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14080 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:40 pm to
Did I say that out loud? I didn’t get much sleep last night.

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47601 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

It's directed to the group of people here from South Louisiana, where Rice and Gravy is served as an entrée.


Rice and gravy is an entree in numerous cultures around the world. They just call it something different.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17371 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:00 pm to
Sunday lunch in Baton Rouge at G'ma's house after Mass in North Baton Rouge was lovingly called "Roast, rice n' gravy". The side was either broccoli and cheese casserole, or green bean casserole (probably other variations, but these I loved the most). Some crunchy garlic bread and my 10-year-old self was sopping up the cast iron pot after everyone was done. Those are good memories.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16673 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Sunday lunch in Baton Rouge at G'ma's house after Mass in North Baton Rouge was lovingly called "Roast, rice n' gravy". The side was either broccoli and cheese casserole, or green bean casserole (probably other variations, but these I loved the most).


Most Sundays at my mom's or grandmother's we had roast with rice and gravy and broccoli with hollandaise and butter beans for the sides.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5126 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:22 pm to
green peas and corn and then I mix them in my rice and gravy
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8468 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Hamburger steak is not always served with rice and gravy though.


No shite. But when it is served with rice and gravy, guess what…you can call it rice and gravy. That’s why I was talking about hamburger steak WITH rice and gravy.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16673 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Ever get a plate lunch? Do they put a hamburger steak in the big compartment of the styrofoam plate and then rice and gravy in the side?


I'm pretty sure Piccadilly does this. I remember always wondering why they didn't put my hamburger steak on top of the rice and gravy, and that it was pretty shitty it counted as one of my sides. It's been a few years since I've been though so I may be wrong, and I wouldn't consider what happens at Piccadilly to be the authority on all thongs related to food in Louisiana
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59513 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

No shite. But when it is served with rice and gravy, guess what…you can call it rice and gravy. That’s why I was talking about hamburger steak WITH rice and gravy.


So a hamburger steak with, say, mashed potatoes is called “hamburger steak with mashed potatoes”, but a hamburger steak with rice and gravy is called “rice and gravy”?

Go sell this shite somewhere else, man.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59513 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure Piccadilly does this. I remember always wondering why they didn't put my hamburger steak on top of the rice and gravy, and that it was pretty shitty it counted as one of my sides.


How dare they make you count a side of carbs as one of your sides!
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