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re: So Do you want Abortion to be illegal if it means Crime rates will sky rocket?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:06 am to TutHillTiger
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:06 am to TutHillTiger
Yes
Let the adults figure how how to deal with criminality
Let the adults figure how how to deal with criminality
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:07 am to Jake88
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Why was it much lower during the 1950s and 1960s compared to the 70s and 80s despite being prior to Roe vs Wade?
I’m going preemptively call you a racist!
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:07 am to WDE24
quote:Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone.
Murdering someone before they might commit a crime isn’t really a solution to crime problems.
Everyone deserves a chance at life.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:08 am to TutHillTiger
How about making people responsible for their actions. You don’t want to take care of baby? Fine, give baby up for adoption then make parent pay child support. If they don’t work, take from their entitlements.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:13 am to TutHillTiger
So this is the rallying cry? Killing black babies lowers crime?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:15 am to VADawg
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using it as a form of birth control makes my blood boil.
I've never understood this. You think stopping legal abortions will stop them from this type of behavior? "Make them have a baby, that will show those sluts!" No, it will be an unwanted baby, possibly an unknown or absent father. Then a high possibility of a harsh life and the cycle repeats.
Also, i find it weird that there is such an obsession with unborn humans, but no mention of their care afterwards.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:17 am to PrecedentedTimes
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This is what I’ve been saying for years. This is a huge reason why Eastern Europe has relatively low crime despite high poverty. Unfortunately the pervasiveness of religion in this country will prevent this argument from ever being taken seriously, even though it makes perfect sense.
Wait what? So they have high poverty and low crime because of abortions?
So they were able to tell which kids born in poverty were going to commit crimes and aborted them?
This makes absolutely no sense.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:19 am to The_Slip
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Also, i find it weird that there is such an obsession with unborn humans, but no mention of their care afterwards.
Abortion up to birth. Post natal abortion in California. The clump of cells and my choice goes out the window.
I’d have a small amount if more respect for the left if you just called it what it is. Murder.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:19 am to jnethe1
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You don’t want to take care of baby? Fine, give baby up for adoption
Yeah! Make the baby an orphan! You want to play? then your offspring will pay the price.
Shut up kid, your dad shouldn't have been a bum.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:21 am to The_Slip
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Yeah! Make the baby an orphan! You want to play? then your offspring will pay the price.
I'd imagine most people, even orphans, would chose existing over being aborted.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:22 am to fr33manator
Mandatory for unmarried.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:22 am to TutHillTiger
Simple solution Set up a program where every year you don;t get pregnant you get paid X dollars.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:26 am to The_Slip
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I've never understood this. You think stopping legal abortions will stop them from this type of behavior? "Make them have a baby, that will show those sluts!" No, it will be an unwanted baby, possibly an unknown or absent father. Then a high possibility of a harsh life and the cycle repeats.
Because destroying life for convenience is barbaric and regressive.
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Also, i find it weird that there is such an obsession with unborn humans, but no mention of their care afterwards.
This is such a stupid trope. 100% of healthy babies will get adopted, and a huge number of infants with serious medical conditions will as well. Moreover, there is absolutely no true deficit of available, free care for infants and toddlers in this country - any limits are posed by geography or adult irresponsibility. The same is true for food, clothing, shelter, etc.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:30 am to The_Slip
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Also, i find it weird that there is such an obsession with unborn humans, but no mention of their care afterwards.
This is a comically ignorant talking point. There are almost countless taxpayer funded programs to help those that want it.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:32 am to TutHillTiger
The OP is based on flawed logic. It assumed that a woman with two abortions and two children would have automatically ended up with four children. It is more likely that after giving birth to the first two, that a person would change behaviors.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:39 am to TutHillTiger
I thought crime was peaking in the mid 90’s, not dropping?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:39 am to VADawg
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want abortion illegal because I'd be willing to bet that >98% of abortions are done just because the lazy arse doesn't want to raise a child. Abortion is despicable and using it as a form of birth control makes my blood boil.
I agree with you, but I also would rather not have unwanted babies coming into the world, that let's face it, we're going to be supporting one way(welfare) or another(prison).
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:39 am to tigahbruh
Don’t kill the The messenger you religious murdering motherfrickers. Maybe if a five-year-old kid said this he would listen.
You catholics have killed more people in the name of christ than the black plague so you can get off that high horse. Being a Catholic or other religious faith does it mean you have to be a mindless motherfricker too, and my best friend from childhood is a priest but he can still think. At least you guys are consistent and against death penalty too unlike the others.
Unlike 90% of Christian’s i have actually read the entire bible, ( the quran and torah too), Jesus has no place in todays Conservative Christian theology, as it really isn’t anything Christ-like about it at all, it’s about hate, distrust, and control. Christ actually preached against this but rarely turns into a sermon because it pisses people off. Read it mfers.
Being a real Christian is too hard for most people and almost all the Middle class and above Americans, including me. It has nothing to do with this.
The war against abortions has nothing to do with religion it’s about control and like the war against drugs, and prohibition was started by a bunch of wealthy, ugly, bitter, old house wives with nothing to do, whose husbands were fricking around on them as a way to take more control of situation and make them pay a price.
I am not pro abortion, just personally grew up around all these miserable hateful bitches my whole damn life and reactively oppose anything they want or like.
Hence, their war on rock and jazz music, alcohol, drugs, really any form of sex or fun, abortion, gays, orgys, porn etc is All about the same thing being able to trap poor unsuspecting men into marrying their miserable hateful shitty arse succubus like selves so they can suck every ounce of life and joy out of their souls and try to make them miserable god fearing pos too.
Next on their radar, birth control, soon to be outlawed in the South, so you knock up a girl you have to marry her like in the 50s so the spawn of these soul sucking demon succubus can trap men too and make their lives a living hell. There is a reason so many of these murder porn shows involve the husband killing their wives, they’ve simply had enough, and who can blame them, you can’t fear hell when you life is already a living hell.
So do as you will, (pun intended for 4 people that will get this reference), but don’t drag Jesus Christ into this, your real Gods are people like Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan etc.
You catholics have killed more people in the name of christ than the black plague so you can get off that high horse. Being a Catholic or other religious faith does it mean you have to be a mindless motherfricker too, and my best friend from childhood is a priest but he can still think. At least you guys are consistent and against death penalty too unlike the others.
Unlike 90% of Christian’s i have actually read the entire bible, ( the quran and torah too), Jesus has no place in todays Conservative Christian theology, as it really isn’t anything Christ-like about it at all, it’s about hate, distrust, and control. Christ actually preached against this but rarely turns into a sermon because it pisses people off. Read it mfers.
Being a real Christian is too hard for most people and almost all the Middle class and above Americans, including me. It has nothing to do with this.
The war against abortions has nothing to do with religion it’s about control and like the war against drugs, and prohibition was started by a bunch of wealthy, ugly, bitter, old house wives with nothing to do, whose husbands were fricking around on them as a way to take more control of situation and make them pay a price.
I am not pro abortion, just personally grew up around all these miserable hateful bitches my whole damn life and reactively oppose anything they want or like.
Hence, their war on rock and jazz music, alcohol, drugs, really any form of sex or fun, abortion, gays, orgys, porn etc is All about the same thing being able to trap poor unsuspecting men into marrying their miserable hateful shitty arse succubus like selves so they can suck every ounce of life and joy out of their souls and try to make them miserable god fearing pos too.
Next on their radar, birth control, soon to be outlawed in the South, so you knock up a girl you have to marry her like in the 50s so the spawn of these soul sucking demon succubus can trap men too and make their lives a living hell. There is a reason so many of these murder porn shows involve the husband killing their wives, they’ve simply had enough, and who can blame them, you can’t fear hell when you life is already a living hell.
So do as you will, (pun intended for 4 people that will get this reference), but don’t drag Jesus Christ into this, your real Gods are people like Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan etc.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:42 am to The_Slip
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I've never understood this. You think stopping legal abortions will stop them from this type of behavior?
No, but I would hope that the idea of life in prison would be a deterrent. We need to stop incentivizing hoodrats to make babies they can't afford, and we also need to stop the barbaric practice of abortion as birth control.
If lifetime entitlements and abortion were both off the table, maybe it would encourage smarter behavior.
I'd be fine with throwing any doctor who performs abortion for birth control behind bars for 25 years.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:44 am to TutHillTiger
The fastest way to a functional poor class is for the government to stop subsidizing single motherism. Then outlaw abortion and make people take care of the kids they make. They'll magically stop having kids they can't afford. Also limit welfare / food benefits to a few years while they get job training. If they fail after that, live under a bridge or in prison.
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