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re: So Do you want Abortion to be illegal if it means Crime rates will sky rocket?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:11 pm to VADawg
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:11 pm to VADawg
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I want abortion illegal because I'd be willing to bet that >98% of abortions are done just because the lazy arse doesn't want to raise a child. Abortion is despicable and using it as a form of birth control makes my blood boil.
If every abortion performed was required to be in tandem with a tubal ligation, the number of abortions requested would approach zero very quickly.
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Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:51 pm to Antonio Moss
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That is a preposterous position.
How do you figure? If you can remember how to use that little lump of grey matter between your ears, put it to work and think about what we know of the times before Christianity. Killing was not given a second thought by Vikings, Mongols, Aztecs, Celts...hell many like the Romans killed for entertainment. I know you probably think we were all created from dust 6,000 - 10,000 years ago, but those of us with sufficient intellect to discard that religious hocus pocus to know better can point even further back to early Homo sapiens. Where over 100,000 years ago your buddy would kill you because he wanted that nice juicy grub worm you found.
The point was not that the only reason we don't kill indiscriminately today is because your god told us not to, the point is the level of hypocrisy in that book about your god that has more murder and genocide on his hands and in his name than all those other barbaric civilizations combined. We don't kill and murder nonchalantly today because we have (mostly) evolved to a more advanced civilization. Unfortunately, it took way longer than it should thanks to your god and his book. There are many such as yourself that are still clinging to these crude belief systems hindering our rate of progress. For example, the belief that at conception a little zygote has been blessed with a soul by your mighty sky wizard. This is an absolutely ridiculous line of thinking (or lack thereof). A fetus is not a person until it has legitimate consciousness and awareness and biologically not a viable human until late in the pregnancy. It is simply a medical procedure that's need is to be determined by the person that owns the uterus and/or their medical professional. Oh...and souls are just a made up word for our consciousness and just as real a thing as dragons, unicorns and your religion.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:02 pm to IamPatman
As far as I know, there has never been any type of law code that didn’t outlaw murder. It’s not exclusive to the Bible or the Ten Commandments. Also most of the world is not Christian and they don’t just run around killing each other.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:04 pm to TutHillTiger
As a former teacher, I've noticed the kids with lowest IQ, work ethic, and most violent tend to have parents that didn't want them. I'm not an advocate of abortion but this study is basically a proven fact. I would prefer some kind of prevention before conception, however.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:06 pm to jchamil
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Atheists just go around killing and raping everyone because they don't have a list of commandments to follow,
I'm sorry...could you please point to where I can find "Do not rape" on that list of commandments you speak of? I'm having trouble locating that one. When that list was made it was perfectly acceptable for men to force themselves on their wives in ways that would be considered a felony today. How about "Do not own other humans as property"? Not there either, because that was normal then huh? Where is "Don't have sex with your own children"? Oh yeah, your god was telling plenty of folks in that book to go for it huh? Quite the morally righteous list you got there buddy.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:14 pm to WDE24
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Murdering someone before they might commit a crime isn’t really a solution to crime problems.
The ultimate Minority Report
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:20 pm to Earnest_P
So what is your answer as to when it begins? Most here would say a clump of 100 cells is 100 percent a human being with rights etc. But a house fly has 100 thousand cells.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:26 pm to Earnest_P
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“When does human life begin” is a question with an answer.
Refusing to consider the question and believing that is the moral high ground amounts to glorying in ignorance.
What’s the answer?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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Why do you hate science?
I'm sorry yall went through what you did. But surely you heard your baby's heartbeat long before you lost the pregnancy.
I don’t hate science and the beating of a heart is part of the development of the fetus but that doesn’t signify anything.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:51 pm to WDE24
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If we kill every human the crime rate will drop to zero.
For those that oppose abortion as the unjustified killing of another, a crime rate argument doesn’t mean much.
Murdering someone before they might commit a crime isn’t really a solution to crime problems.
The problem is it feels like there need to be better social programs passing alongside this but…. Crickets…
Posted on 4/14/22 at 6:01 pm to Jake88
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Why was it much lower during the 1950s and 1960s compared to the 70s and 80s despite being prior to Roe vs Wade?
Also, why did crime spike in the early 1990s when the alleged benefits should have occurred?
Banning leaded gasoline is much more closely correlated if you go by the prime age for criminality.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:33 pm to IamPatman
Dang you’re mad. I must’ve hit a nerve.
God created the first humans from the earth. Since then humans carry the babies in the womb. Once an egg is fertilized by a sperm, a living person has been created. To kill it is murder.
Don’t see the confusion but I love scripture so quote away.
God created the first humans from the earth. Since then humans carry the babies in the womb. Once an egg is fertilized by a sperm, a living person has been created. To kill it is murder.
Don’t see the confusion but I love scripture so quote away.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:37 pm to IamPatman
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I'm sorry...could you please point to where I can find
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Do not rape
Love your neighbor.
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Do not own other humans as property
Love your neighbor.
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Don't have sex with your own children
Leviticus 18:6-7 “You must never have sexual relations with a close relative, for I am the LORD.”
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:39 pm to IamPatman
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A fetus is not a person until it has legitimate consciousness and awareness
Wrong.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:43 pm to pwejr88
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Don’t see the confusion but I love scripture so quote away.
My man!
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:50 pm to TutHillTiger
When it comes to crime rates and abortion, the issue is the people that flock to it have no concept of personal responsibility. Which is definitely part of the issue as to why things, especially a society, declines.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:58 pm to IamPatman
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ut those of us with sufficient intellect to discard that religious hocus pocus
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here over 100,000 years ago your buddy would kill you because he wanted that nice juicy grub worm you found.
You're a fricking retard role playing as a post modern intellectual. Please stop.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:55 pm to IamPatman
I am sorry and i do believe that when it was about the “word” Christians did help civilize the barbaric tribes etc, of course those that didn’t covert were often killed, but that aside you are using the alpha male law of the jungle concept which has already been proven to be false, we are programmed to fear two things, public speaking and reptiles, and our survival genetics are actually not to kill or be killed but to work together in groups for defense security etc. The law of the jungle never applied to use or likely any apes.
True Alpha males are rare as they weren’t many needed and sociopaths were typically killed or banished from the community.
True Alpha males are rare as they weren’t many needed and sociopaths were typically killed or banished from the community.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 7:23 am to BigNastyTiger417
A woman who can justify killing her unborn infant is capable of performing the mental gymnastics required to justify any behavior.
The neanderthal practiced infanticide when resources became scarce... they were quickly outbred, their only legacy being short snippets of genetic code from those who assimilated into homo sapien families.
The neanderthal practiced infanticide when resources became scarce... they were quickly outbred, their only legacy being short snippets of genetic code from those who assimilated into homo sapien families.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 7:32 am to TutHillTiger
My stance on abortion is this. I’m personally opposed to it. It’s abhorrent. However, the people who are having abortions are absolutely the ones that should have them. They’re pieces of shite, and unfortunately they’ll raise their children to follow in their footsteps. The cycle is never broken. I know this won’t be a popular stance, but I don’t care.
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 7:44 am
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