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re: Homebuilders cancelling contracts to sell for more on market

Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:25 pm to
The problem you’re not getting is that ANY home will now make an average middle class earner house poor, assuming they could even buy it in the first place. That 2000 sqft home in need of updating and in what is probably a slowly decaying neighborhood is unobtainable now for a vast number of people.
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:28 pm to
Bruh we talking the south not the Bay Area. Median income is like 50k. 260k is most definitely expensive for that area. Most can’t even afford it. Add it the high Texas taxes and good luck keeping up with the payments.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:32 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:33 pm to
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ah, buddy, wife and I have been in the same 2000sft house for 15 years.


I plan on being in the same 2000 sqft house for many more years.

What percentage of your take home pay did you spend on your mortgage note when you bought the house 15 years ago.

Adjusting for inflation in wages and adjusting for inflation in housing prices, do you think the same percentage of take home pay would apply to someone buying your house, today?
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:33 pm to
I remember when I bought my first home in 2005, the general rule of thumb was that you were supposed to spend no more than 3x your annual income on a home. Think about that now. Even someone making 100k would have a hard time staying within that unless they commute 2 hours or live in gangland. The median household income in the south is in the 40’s I think. Tell me where you can get a $120k house now.

Then on top of this, if you want a job paying $100k at some point in the future, for most people that requires college and taking on big time debt to pay for said college.

The whole thing is a joke and just another example of how the Boomers have stolen generations of wealth for themselves while letting the country collapse around them.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4143 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:40 pm to
The real question is will they write loans that everyone knows will never be paid back.

Also will the people just keep living in their houses for an indefinite period of time while foreclosure is initiated. During 2008 I heard about lots of folks living in the house for a good five years until foreclosure finalized. Put another way, they lived a good five years rent free.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:41 pm
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:42 pm to
The thing is that right now there are no loans being written that people can’t pay back. That interest only no doc stuff from 2007 doesn’t exist anymore. Foreclosures won’t happen just because values drop. Those people are now locked into renting for the foreseeable future.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:42 pm to
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I remember when I bought my first home in 2005, the general rule of thumb was that you were supposed to spend no more than 3x your annual income on a home.
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I bought my first home at 25 years old. 6 percent interest and that was after a buy-down. Yes, I was around 2.8x my annual income.

That 3x rule was relaxed some when interest rates were low for so long. But what happens when rates go back to 6, which they will, sooner or later.

Either even more housing stock gets bought up by the wealthy / corporations to rent out, or, housing prices fall.

Neither is good for our young generation.
Posted by TigreB77
Member since Jun 2019
92 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:46 pm to
100% this is so infuriating to watch.


LINK
Posted by charlestonchief
Member since Sep 2006
589 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:47 pm to
Is no one allowed to save anymore, build their careers, and buy when the market suits them? How long do y’all think the current housing market will last like it is?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69109 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:48 pm to
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And people wonder why more and more youth are at least willing to listen to the demnocrat ideas of socialism and the like


They won’t be owning a house in socialism either. Nor will they own any of their parents shite when they die.

Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:49 pm to
Bingo. I was 22, 8 months out of college, I think the interest rate was 6% or so, and it was a pretty decent newish 3BR in a decent neighborhood. That is absolutely impossible for young people now.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69109 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:54 pm to
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is already stolen and it amazes me how people, even on this website, act like this isn’t one of the worst economies for any person to jump into.


Tyler Perry was a kid from a broken New Orleans home that is now worth $1 billion.

That shite doesn’t happen in other parts of the world.

This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:56 pm to
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Is no one allowed to save anymore, build their careers, and buy when the market suits them? How long do y’all think the current housing market will last like it is


A long time. The main driver of the problem is the total lack of inventory due to decades of under building. Interest hikes are going to slow the increase but there will not be a huge crash unless we have a depression with massive unemployment, at which point everyone is screwed anyway.

And how exactly is anyone just starting out supposed to save for a house when inflation wipes out any gains they make each year?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Is no one allowed to save anymore, build their careers, and buy when the market suits them? How long do y’all think the current housing market will last like it is?


While listening to their parents and grandparents talk about how they got married and bought a house and had kids by age 25?

Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30321 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:01 pm to
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And how exactly is anyone just starting out supposed to save for a house when inflation wipes out any gains they make each year?



This is killing me. I got a 25% increase in pay last year due to a job move. I’m still feel just as broke and buying a home next year looks much less likely.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:02 pm to
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Tyler Perry was a kid from a broken New Orleans home that is now worth $1 billion.

That shite doesn’t happen in other parts of the world.


That's your defense? A 1 in a million generational talent?

I mean... I guess some football players came from NOLA and have money now as well...
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11257 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:02 pm to
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It isn’t a bubble. It’s the federal reserve. I will post this over and over and over again until I’m blue in the face. BlackRock and others with help from the federal reserve are buying up every house they can at prices your middle class American can’t afford. The bubble won’t burst because Black Rock won’t sell, they are turning them into single family rentals. Our own government is trying to wipe out the middle class. The “American Dream” is quickly dying because there is never enough money for the elite in America. They will fricking crush you into lifetime financial dependence with no escape if it means a few extra thousand for them. By the time most people wake up to it, it’ll be too late. And don’t bank on our corrupt as media bringing coverage to it. They are all in bed together.


This is spot on. It’s ALL going as planned. Inflation, debt whether credit card or insane prices of higher education, the younger generation is fricked. And unfortunately don’t realize democrats who push for socialism are very much a reason why the system is in place.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7856 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:08 pm to
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Well what’s the alternative? The “Eastern Europe nightmare”?


Build your own. I'm in the third house I built. Mortgage free too.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72268 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:12 pm to
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Tyler Perry was a kid from a broken New Orleans home that is now worth $1 billion.
Hold on, your defense of the current economy is that a 50+ year old man from New Orleans is a billionaire?

Really?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48982 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:25 pm to
This will collapse like all bubbles eventually do. It's impossible to predict when but it will happen.

It's starting to feel about like 2006 with regards to home prices.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 9:28 pm
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