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re: Great video for those of us like me who wanted to understand the Russia/Ukraine situation

Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136862 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:51 am to
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just watched this entire video


you watched it from the toilet
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:03 am to
Shouldn’t you be in Ukraine?
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:09 am to
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Oil. It’s always about oil. It will always be about oil.

If we are talking resources Russia/Ukraine is much more about gas than oil. There are large deposits in the Black Sea and Donbass. It's also about water for Crimea. The Ukrainians dammed up the canal supplying most of their fresh water.
Posted by Sisselpud81
Member since Jan 2022
635 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:17 am to
U.S. needs to stay out of it. Let them fight. If this Russian invade spreads beyond the Ukraine, let the east handle it. You don't become a member of NATO to let us be world police when the shite hits the fan. As many problems as we have, we don't have any direct invasion. And that's not a coincidence.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:30 am to
I quit reading at "Glenn".

Although used to like him (very early days), fella oozes 'wack job' to me.

Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:40 am to
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So Putin is actually a good guy trying to keep us safe and delay the great reset. Got it, thanks



This isn't a fricking movie or video game. There aren't "good guys" and "bad guys." There are individuals, entities, groups, nations, and coalitions all looking out for and acting in their own interests.

Putin is not acting in our interests and probably hates us. That said, is it hard - especially after the last 2 years of authoritarian abuse and propaganda- to acknowledge that our own institutions will use whatever means necessary to continue to apply control?

The intentions of our own governments, media, and corporations are far more disturbing than an aggressive bully in Eastern Europe, where the American people have zero economic or strategic interests.

Putin can be a "bad guy" at the same time as those in our own society that wish to abolish the Constitution and the natural rights it protects.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34445 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:44 am to
Blind linking to fricking Glenn Beck should be an instaban. frick you, OP.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:10 am to
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just watched this entire video...good stuff...


Nah, that video was full of shite. It’s the great reset.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111206 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:37 pm to
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This would be the opposite of what Twitter, Reddit, liberal politicians and the main stream media is telling you.

So does it really seem far fetched based on other events and talking points those entities have been in unison on?
It seems farfetched because it's farfetched.

Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52908 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:42 pm to
Thank you for the impartial, credible perspective.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
Somewhere in Bartow County
Member since Sep 2018
1963 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:51 pm to
That quote from Kamala reminds me of this scene of Band of Brothers

Germans are bad
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6225 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 1:25 pm to
Glenn Beck

Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5151 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 1:33 pm to
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GaPhan


Excellent video my man. I had no idea about all of the oil and gas involved.

I watched the whole thing
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25914 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 2:34 pm to
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This is more than oil.


I have been talking about the real reasons for days in the big thread.

Putin's reasons are:

Taking the offshore gas/oil fields he did not get control of when he took Crimes

Taking the shale oil fields in eastern and western Ukraine

Controlling Soyuz and Brotherhood pipelines that run from Russia across central Ukraine

Access to the water from the Dnieper River because the Ukrainians shut down the Northern Crimean canal and Crimea is drying up

Connecting the Russian separatists of Transdniestria in Moldova physically to Russia.

A significantly smaller reason is pushing the land bridge to Russia farther back toward the Fulda gap

Outside of rhetoric reuniting ethnic Russians with the motherland is just a romantic talking point


The primary reasons are oil/gas and water anything else is secondary, tertiary, or simply just obfuscation.





Posted by JohnnyAlpha
Member since Jul 2021
21 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:19 pm to
The best video that I've seen was the one on the earlier crisis in Ukraine (from 2014).

John Mearsheimer is a professor of political science at U of Chicago and his presentation is spot on. You should watch the video to its end. The Q&A session has some amazing insights as well (such as the impact of the media and the greater threat posed by China, and the fact that the interventionist U.S. foreign policy ironically leads us into many wars and then many lost wars because we never have a magical exit strategy).

In the end, the U.S. foreign policy promoted by the liberals and neo-cons is causing great harm.

LINK
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:45 pm to
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Outside of rhetoric reuniting ethnic Russians with the motherland is just a romantic talking point


Kinda, but ethnic homeland shite just means more to the Russians than a modern American lens.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11546 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:48 pm to
Good video if you watch it all. Beck's point on Switzerland and their banks is rather eye opening when you think about it, doing what they've never done before.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6597 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:40 pm to
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The best video that I've seen was the one on the earlier crisis in Ukraine (from 2014).

John Mearsheimer is a professor of political science at U of Chicago and his presentation is spot on.


The Mearsheimer video is a good video. Beck hits on some of the same themes, actually. Russia and China are nationalist in outlook and will do what they feel is in their best interest and to hell with other countries.

The EU and US are trending toward a more unified, global identity, albeit at different rates and with some starts and stops (Brexit). One thing for sure, once a government gets control of some facet of your life, it seldom wants to relinquish that control.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:45 pm to
A Russian on Reddit explained why they are mad. Best explanation I have heard. TL;DR it stems from WW2. Putin and the wealthy feel they are above Germany and Japan and deserve more than our handouts. The Ukraine has zero chance of joining NATO because they can't meet the requirements, but the threat rustled the rich.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2273 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:47 pm to
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Putin is very savvy


Have we spoken about how he is a genius ? We need to …
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