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re: No, we should not send our military to Ukraine. But can we speak the truth?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I didn’t say that either
You made a definitive blanket statement
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:29 am to upgrayedd
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My opinion is that I understand his reasoning as to why he's done what he's done.
Gonna be a lot of dead innocent civilians to punctuate his "reasoning"
Just sayin
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:29 am to Slippy
Speak the truth? Sure
Putin is punking Biden on the world stage which is not surprising considering what comes to mind when you think of the two
Putin- Strength and leadership
Biden- Pudding and Depends
What a sick joke this administration is
Putin is punking Biden on the world stage which is not surprising considering what comes to mind when you think of the two
Putin- Strength and leadership
Biden- Pudding and Depends
What a sick joke this administration is
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:30 am to FredBear
What about UK, France, Germany, et al?
Are they, too, being punked?
Are they, too, being punked?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:30 am to upgrayedd
How often has Russia been attacked in the last 60 years? When has the West professed any desire to annex any part of Russia? This has nothing to do with buffer zones.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to WaWaWeeWa
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What’s the chances Mexico invades the US?
At this point, 100%...just not with their military.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to CharlesLSU
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Gonna be a lot of dead innocent civilians to punctuate his "reasoning"
Just sayin
This is 100% true. I'm not agreeing with his actions.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to FredBear
quote:what's sick is the amount of supposed "pro-USA" "patriots" sucking Putin's dick and actively rooting for our country's failure
Speak the truth? Sure
Putin is punking Biden on the world stage which is not surprising considering what comes to mind when you think of the two
Putin- Strength and leadership
Biden- Pudding and Depends
What a sick joke this administration is
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to HottyToddy7
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I think you need to realize that he last 30 years of planet Earth is an outlier on the history of the planet. Do I agree with what Putin is doing? No. Do I understand why he would want a buffer zone after the 1800s and 1900s and his lack of trust of western Europe? Absolutely.
So you don’t think it has anything to do with him maintaining control domestically but instead some scenario in which NATO somehow invades Russia.
If that’s true then he’s completely off the deep end.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to LeClerc
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How often has Russia been attacked in the last 60 years? When has the West professed any desire to annex any part of Russia? This has nothing to do with buffer zones.
What the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to upgrayedd
But upgrayyed, don’t you see how close Russia has moved it’s country to NATO bases the past 20 years? This is an OUTRAGE!
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to FredBear
I would love to have someone like Putin in power here in America, as long as his views align with mine… that would be unfortunate if I wanted the opposite of someone like Putin.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:31 am to shawnlsu
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The US is as corrupt, if not more so than Russia and China combined.
Found the pansy boy
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:32 am to CharlesLSU
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What about UK, France, Germany, et al?
Are they, too, being punked?
Germany's hand's are tied because they are basically completely dependent on Russian natural gas. France is France and you know how they are. UK is going to do what they did in the 1930s and appease to avoid a major conflict.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:32 am to LeClerc
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So you're of the opinion that Vladimir Putin is a great guy and justified in attacking Ukraine, right?
I think he’s doing exactly what any rational person would predict he would do.
We empowered him by allowing him to fuel europe. Then we lost our energy independence and are now importing Russian oil. While at the same time encroaching on his borders.
What do you expect him to do? You don’t have to admit he’s a good guy to say no shite this will be the result.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:32 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Yeah just because there was a coup that led to a regime Putin doesn’t like, that doesn’t make the US “responsible” for him invading the place
Sure, if you completely ignore that the Ukraine oligarchs with a significant financial interest in EU trade agreements were the highest donors to the Clinton Foundation between 2009 and 2013 (while Hilary was Secretary of State). If you completely ignore that US policy on Ukraine changed under Clinton in 2012 to a policy of financial intervention and support for regime change. If you completely ignore that the US financially supported the antagonist of the 2014 coup. If you completely ignore that key operatives were placed into the Ukraine government following the coup (especially financial sectors) by the US government. If you completely ignore that US political family members were given political positions that resulted in million-dollar salaries by these same political operatives and donors.
As long as you completely ignore all of that, your line of thinking makes sense.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:32 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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But upgrayyed, don’t you see how close Russia has moved it’s country to NATO bases the past 20 years? This is an OUTRAGE!
Exactly.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:33 am to Draconian Sanctions
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So again do you think there’s a possibility of a Nato invasion of Russia?
If not, then specifically why is a buffer zone needed?
The only thing I can think of is he’s afraid a more prosperous Eastern Europe is a threat to his control of Russia.
If there’s another reason please tell me
It isn't just about if there is a possibility of invasion. It is about regional control and influence. If in the future Russia is surrounded by NATO countries it's power in the region is lowered significantly. Sanctions by NATO allies hold much more weight in that scenario.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:33 am to upgrayedd
I thought you were saying the invasion was to give Vlad a buffer zone for security reasons. No?
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