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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:35 pm to StormyMcMan
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:35 pm to StormyMcMan
Prigozhin: Realizing that Russian blood may be spilled, we stop our columns and go back to the field camps according to the plan.
https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1672658860799057921
https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1672658860799057921
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:36 pm to TacoNash
I mean, if Putin just lets him go back, this has to be staged right?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:36 pm to TacoNash
This is a real-life, real-time soap opera.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:36 pm to Chromdome35
Some of the rhetoric has been pretty up there, so everyone just forgives everyone and lets go back to the war in Ukraine?
At the end of the day, this is still a major win for Ukraine. It only damaged Russia.
At the end of the day, this is still a major win for Ukraine. It only damaged Russia.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:36 pm to TacoNash
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according to the plan.
This is the part that's the most confusing. What plan is he referring to?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:37 pm to SpeedyNacho
Wonder if we will see changes in Russian military leadership? If it wasn't staged, some significant concessions had to be made, you'd think.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:38 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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This is a real-life, real-time soap opera
“As the Russians Turn”
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:38 pm to Chromdome35
What about all the aircraft Russia lost in the last 24 hours...don't worry about it?
Does Wagner remain a force in the war or will they be sidelined? This is confusing.
Does Wagner remain a force in the war or will they be sidelined? This is confusing.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:38 pm to Chromdome35
So Russia is just gonna ignore the fact that Wagner tried to stage a coup and drop all charges?
I'm with speedy that if this is seriously the case it's all staged. But then again why tear up the roads and bridges?
I'm just at a loss as how this makes any sense what so ever
I'm with speedy that if this is seriously the case it's all staged. But then again why tear up the roads and bridges?
I'm just at a loss as how this makes any sense what so ever
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:39 pm to StormyMcMan
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This is the part that's the most confusing. What plan is he referring to?
Possibly the plan to flex Wagner's muscle, show leadership the support it could gather from the Russian rank and file, and force some change? Who knows.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:39 pm to Chromdome35
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Does Wagner remain a force in the war or will they be sidelined
Well according to "the plan" they are going back to their field camps, which I would guess are in Ukraine
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:40 pm to TacoNash
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Prigozhin: Realizing that Russian blood may be spilled, we stop our columns and go back to the field camps according to the plan.
I guess Prigozhin was planning on raising a rebellion and then expecting Putin to go along with his claims that Putin had been misled.
I guess it worked but if I was Prigozhin I would stay away from windows higher than the first story for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:42 pm to StormyMcMan
Anticlimactic coup attempt is anticlimactic.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:42 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Possibly the plan to flex Wagner's muscle, show leadership the support it could gather from the Russian rank and file, and force some change? Who knows.
Has that ever worked with an authoritarian though? Or at least for very long?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:43 pm to AnotherWin4LSU
What a wild turn of events lmao
Putin calls him a traitor and then like 3 hours later it's all cool haha
Definitely seems staged but what was accomplished?
Putin calls him a traitor and then like 3 hours later it's all cool haha
Definitely seems staged but what was accomplished?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:43 pm to LegendInMyMind
https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1672661430489759745
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?? Prigozhin was offered to give up the idea of going to Moscow, and in response they offered security guarantees to Wagner PMC. They also promised to resolve the issues of Shoigu and Gerasimov, Russian media reports.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:43 pm to SpeedyNacho
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I mean, if Putin just lets him go back, this has to be staged right?
The Russian ppl believe anything he say. Putin could have just dismissed Sergei Shoigu or had him fall out of a window and the Russian people would have gone along with him.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:44 pm to JohnnyKilroy
this is high school level chick drama.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:45 pm to StormyMcMan
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At the end of the day, this is still a major win for Ukraine. It only damaged Russia.
I don’t know. If they’re turning around to fight Ukraine again and there wasn’t much bloodshed it seems more like a very minor victory.
You could argue an attempted coup has long lasting ramifications on the Russian psyche, but those are just words.
The same as people saying he’s committed treason and there’s no way he can turn back now. They were apparently just words too because he appears to be doing just so.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:46 pm to Chromdome35
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?? Prigozhin was offered to give up the idea of going to Moscow, and in response they offered security guarantees to Wagner PMC. They also promised to resolve the issues of Shoigu and Gerasimov, Russian media reports.
That would mean Putin folded and the country is now effectively controlled by Prigozhin.
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