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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:46 pm to
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?? Prigozhin was offered to give up the idea of going to Moscow, and in response they offered security guarantees to Wagner PMC. They also promised to resolve the issues of Shoigu and Gerasimov, Russian media reports.

Yeah, kind of the feel I got as soon as the Luka "deal" news broke.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Possibly the plan to flex Wagner's muscle, show leadership the support it could gather from the Russian rank and file, and force some change? Who knows.



I doubt Prig gives up Rostov. But this may have been a shakedown, give me a billion or I'm coming to Moscow. And I'm certain the equipment they have picked up isnt going back where they got it.

One certainty, his guys need some sleep, they have been at for 72-96 hours at least and I dont care how much speed you eat shite starts t get weird.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3818 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:47 pm to
Listening to a Twitter broadcast but apparently several Wagner soldiers are announcing they are going to break their contracts
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:47 pm to
[quote]Reports Lukashenka talked with Prig and Wagner is pausing. LINK ] WTF

Prig was just pranking everyone?

Such a strange 24 hours
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:48 pm to
How in the world do you loljk out of a coup attempt
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55593 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:48 pm to
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I doubt Prig gives up Rostov.

If he wanted to keep a good amount of leverage as to the direction of the war planning he'd definitely keep it.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:48 pm to
Russian telegram channels can be hard to interpret at times, the AP Wagner channel doesn't appear to be very happy right now
https://t.me/apwagner/9144
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Already a politician with dubious prospects.

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I'm breaking my contract.


Channel changed it's name and logo to the grim reaper and "Alex Parker Returns"




Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10671 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Putin calls him a traitor and then like 3 hours later it's all cool haha


Definitely seems staged but what was accomplished?


Maybe they worked together to create a crisis, then solved the crisis. This creates domestic conditions for a plausible face saving off ramp out of Ukraine.

They both know the war is not winnable for Russia. So it's about distracting the public from their own failures. They didn't lose a war in Ukraine, they saved Russia from a coup!
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:51 pm to
Fighterbomber not very happy with Russia
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/12900
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We agreed. Everyone is "absolutely beneficial and acceptable" (c)

As I understand it, the blood of the crews of Russian pilots Mi-8mtpr, the crew of the Ka-52, the crew of the Il-18 (22) VZPU killed by PMC Wagner is not considered blood.
Well, OK. Carved into granite.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:52 pm to
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How in the world do you loljk out of a coup attempt
he has a wedding to cater and was double booked
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3818 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:52 pm to
I wonder if the rank and file Wagner soldiers are actually gonna stop
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35947 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:53 pm to
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Prig was just pranking everyone?


Him and Putin.

Putin is a smart, cunning motherfricker. He didn't get to where he is by being stupid/naive
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:53 pm to
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672663956307968001
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You won't believe it but some Wagner guys seem really mad about this.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:54 pm to
I can believe that, but to what end? I guess time may tell.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Maybe they worked together to create a crisis, then solved the crisis. This creates domestic conditions for a plausible face saving off ramp out of Ukraine.


Eh, we have all watched Russia walk all over their own dick for a year, they arent that sophisticated.

If its "resolved" a ton of fricking money went from one hand to another.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:55 pm to
Will Russia still utilize Wagner in Ukraine? Going back to their camps could mean their camps in Russia.

How could Russia ever trust Wagner again?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36627 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Putin is a smart, cunning motherfricker. He didn't get to where he is by being stupid/naive


So he bolted from Moscow because he was always in control?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:56 pm to
AP Wagner channel big mad
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Criminals cannot be trusted. If you got a knife, then you need to beat. A politician with dubious prospects acted like a complete idiot and framed a huge number of people. If you do not have eggs to go to the end, then you do not need to start anything. I hope it will be destroyed in some sophisticated and vile way. All his assets must be taken away. This is my personal opinion. Such vile and insignificant people need to be destroyed to zero.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35947 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:56 pm to
Or it was all a ruse.

Hell none of us know anything right now.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:58 pm to
Girkin
https://t.me/strelkovii/5698
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Six downed combat helicopters (including two most valuable EW helicopters, not armed at all) and one RER aircraft (with a crew) - for this "amnesty", yes ... I hope - at least in this example, our army (and specifically air -cosmic forces) will forever remember the "creator of the march of justice." But I don't think it's over yet...
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