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Why is fascism connected to "RIGHT WING?"
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:30 pm
The left wants more government
They actively censor the conservatives
They want high taxes
They support government mandates but defund police?
For open borders and abortions..and government sponsored HC.. hmmm
Trudeau is being very authoritarian...and he is a leftist
Fascism...can be left or right...? Right?
But the left to me seems most comfortable with trusting big daddy government...in total control.
"Use military to stop Trucker protest"
They actively censor the conservatives
They want high taxes
They support government mandates but defund police?
For open borders and abortions..and government sponsored HC.. hmmm
Trudeau is being very authoritarian...and he is a leftist
Fascism...can be left or right...? Right?
But the left to me seems most comfortable with trusting big daddy government...in total control.
"Use military to stop Trucker protest"
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:32 pm to ApexTiger
you accuse your enemy of what you are doing, so they don't look at what you are doing.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:32 pm to ApexTiger
Because the Left Wing controls most of the media.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:32 pm to ApexTiger
Oh yay. This topic again.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:33 pm to ApexTiger
Because the left didn't want to be connected to Hitler. That is the truth.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:34 pm to ApexTiger
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Why is fascism connected to "RIGHT WING?"
It’s called projecting
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:35 pm to ApexTiger
Leftist dominate academia so they dictate the meanings of words.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:37 pm to ApexTiger
Because idiots on the right like calling fascists “liberal.”
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:42 pm to ApexTiger
Facism is right wing. It is authoritarianism for the purpose of helping oligarchs and the political class (usually the military class, too). That is right wing by definition.
Left wing authoritarianism is generally cloaked in concern for the proletariat, which always suffers mightily under their rule.
I always say that the political spectrum is best represented by a circle, and if two move, one to the extreme left and the other to the extreme right, they will meet at the bottom of the circle.
Left wing authoritarianism is generally cloaked in concern for the proletariat, which always suffers mightily under their rule.
I always say that the political spectrum is best represented by a circle, and if two move, one to the extreme left and the other to the extreme right, they will meet at the bottom of the circle.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:50 pm to ApexTiger
Because there was a concerted effort at the university level to tie the term to the “Neo-Nazis,” and thus...Nazis. Iirc, the transition in term usage began in earnest in the late 70’s.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:53 pm to ApexTiger
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Fascism...can be left or right...? Right?
Usually both simultaneously. Fascism is foremost poorly defined, but the common elements of fascist systems are (1) nationalism (not necessarily ethno-nationalism, though), (2) authoritarianism, (3) varying levels of state control over private corporations to accomplish state goals, and (4) goal of self-sufficiency. Everything else is up to individual government...
Can't truly be defined as left or right wing because fascism isn't really a system- similar to how 'Democracy' is neither left or right wing.
Almost all fascist governments were right-wing which is why the association is there. However, China is clearly the best example of modern fascism (though no one will admit it) and they are almost always defined as left wing.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:04 pm to ApexTiger
For starters, because Mussolini said it was a right wing movement.
From The Doctrine of Fascism, 1932:
“Granted that the 19th century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the 20th century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the ‘right’ a Fascist century.”
It’s right-authoritarianism. Fascism rejected the class-conflict model at the core of socialism, rejecting proletarian universalism for blood-and-soil nationalism. It’s not about more or less “government,” as there are anarcho-syndicalists on the left just as critical of the state. It’s about who gets the spoils and who’s the enemy: the owners of capital or the enemies of the “volk.” The government of the Nazi Reich didn’t take over ownership of business (quite the opposite), but they did bust up unions.
Also Trudeau isn’t a leftist, he’s a neoliberal.
From The Doctrine of Fascism, 1932:
“Granted that the 19th century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the 20th century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the ‘right’ a Fascist century.”
It’s right-authoritarianism. Fascism rejected the class-conflict model at the core of socialism, rejecting proletarian universalism for blood-and-soil nationalism. It’s not about more or less “government,” as there are anarcho-syndicalists on the left just as critical of the state. It’s about who gets the spoils and who’s the enemy: the owners of capital or the enemies of the “volk.” The government of the Nazi Reich didn’t take over ownership of business (quite the opposite), but they did bust up unions.
Also Trudeau isn’t a leftist, he’s a neoliberal.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:09 pm to ApexTiger
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Fascism...can be left or right...? Right?
Authoritarianism can be left or right. Fascism is, by definition, right wing authoritarianism.
It’s a weird thing to get upset about. Would you feel better if the left started labeling right wing extremism with another word and then tried to slap you with that label instead?
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:10 pm to ApexTiger
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Why is fascism connected to "RIGHT WING?"
Because the media is left wing. And the left blames others for their sins...
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:21 pm to ApexTiger
Because inside every Leftist there is a Fascist trying to get out!
This post was edited on 2/13/22 at 8:26 am
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:00 pm to ApexTiger
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Why is fascism connected to "RIGHT WING?"
Someone doesn't civics.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:12 pm to ApexTiger
There's a lot of power in controlling narrative and being good with words.
The right wing just isn't very good at it. Much of the "right wing" that Democrats are fighting right now are actually red pilled liberals.
(DeSantis being one of the exceptions of course)
The right wing just isn't very good at it. Much of the "right wing" that Democrats are fighting right now are actually red pilled liberals.
(DeSantis being one of the exceptions of course)
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:24 pm to ApexTiger
2 reasons
1. fascists are typically to the right of communists
2. Fascists tend to be nationalists while communists at least pretend not to be
That is pretty much it. Most fascist regimes are to the left of both major American political parties in most regards
1. fascists are typically to the right of communists
2. Fascists tend to be nationalists while communists at least pretend not to be
That is pretty much it. Most fascist regimes are to the left of both major American political parties in most regards
Posted on 2/13/22 at 12:04 am to ApexTiger
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Why is fascism connected to "RIGHT WING?"
Because the actual fascists control the media.
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