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re: No way you can blame that ref at the end

Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:34 pm to
I know all of that. What I’m saying is the mechanics are flawed. Let the ref nearest the action make the call or spot the ball.

We’ve all seen umpires 2 feet from a goal line scrum not able to make the call. It’s silly.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48013 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:34 pm to
No, just go watch the video you posted, the ref touches the ball for a grand total of 1 second so you can redefine a slight flinch as re-spotting the ball even though that’s not what happened but even using your version of reality the ref didn’t have the ball long enough to be the cause of the clock running out.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 7:36 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30753 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

I mean you can kinda blame him for running into Prescott and moving the ball back for no real reason

It was still going to be risky but the umpire being a bumbling fool didn’t help



He ran into Dak because Dak was trying to illegally snap the ball.

He moved the ball back because it was spotted at the wrong place and he was lining it up with the ref on the sideline who had his foot where it should have been spotted.

If Dak goes down 5 yards sooner and waits for the ref to spot the ball they spike it easily.

The ref was trying to get to the ball as quickly as possible to spot it so the play could start, he deserves 0 blame.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

That piece of shite knew what he was doing



And you’re the same dumbfrick saying the Saints won a scripted SB
Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
3223 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

The Boat


The Cowboys called a dumb play and the ref is supposed to set the ball, but no one will address why the ref is so far away with seconds left in a playoff game. 30 yards away seems excessive.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48013 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:38 pm to
Bruh the ref got to the spot with 4 seconds on the clock. 30 yards or not he was there in time for Dallas to execute what they wanted to do but Dak was too stupid for that to happen.
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Have the nearest ref spot it in under 2 minute situations. I blame the umpire for being clunky but not the process of him being the only person allowed to spot it.


This isn’t some hidden knowledge. All teams and coaches should plan for seconds ticking away while refs spot a ball.

It’s coaches for play call or Dak for not getting down sooner and cutting it as close as possible to a last second spike.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 7:40 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35076 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

I know all of that. What I’m saying is the mechanics are flawed. Let the ref nearest the action make the call or spot the ball.

Scenario:

Play is run to the boundary side. On the LJ's side. The play ends right at the sideline. 35 yard line. Inbounds.

The LJ will spot the ball on his foot.
The U will come up from trailing the play in the middle of the field and have the ball given to him by the R or he'll get it himself where he then spots it in accordance w/the LJ's foot(spot).

It's been like this forever. And for good reason. The U is always the closest to the ball and in the middle of the field.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64151 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Yea you fricking can dumb frick. That piece of shite knew what he was doing


You’re right. You can blame the ref. You’d just be wrong
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111147 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Have the nearest ref spot it in under 2 minute situations.
Even if one of the side judges spot it, then the Cowboys would still have to wait a few seconds for him to then run to the sideline before they could snap it.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46216 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:53 pm to
Or they’d just have refs way out of position and they’d miss a call, then the same people bitching to make it that way would have a come apart
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46216 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

He set it down back a yard. Then he set it down about 3/4 of a yard farther up.


He set it back a yard (you know where it should actually have been spotted). Then to speed things up brings it forward which HELPS THE COWBOYS.

And now Cowboys fans are bitching about it
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11307 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

mean you can kinda blame him for running into Prescott and moving the ball back for no real reason

It was still going to be risky but the umpire being a bumbling fool didn’t help


Counter: if he did his job properly instead of racing it would not have even been that close.


That said, maybe warn the ref what’s coming and remind dak about handing it to the ref when you make the call.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25383 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:59 pm to
None of this matters.... the entire offensive line was offsides when the ball was snapped after the ref placed it correctly.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30711 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Yea you fricking can dumb frick. That piece of shite knew what he was doing


The Umpire or Referee must spot the ball before each play. Blame the center or ball carrier
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111147 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

No way you can blame that ref at the end
Dak Prescott can, this is a real quote:

quote:

Cowboys QB Dak Prescott disparaged fans for throwing bottles, debris at players. Then Prescott was told the fans were aiming for officiating crew. Prescott retracted. “A credit to them then.”
That's a nice fine incoming, what a dumb thing to say considering he had a worse day than the officials lol
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49841 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:52 pm to
McCarthy doubling down as well.

Was so happy to see him kicked the frick out of Green Bay.

About 5 years too late...
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:15 pm to
Such a terrible coach. Couldn’t believe how long it took GB. And then Dallas hires him
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:25 pm to
quote:


My first post criticized the Cowboys play call. Still doesn’t explain the back judge being 30 yards away with seconds left in a playoff game


First off, it's the umpire, not the back judge, secondly where is he supposed to be on the play.

I'm waiting to be impressed with your mechanics knowledge.
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

We’ve all seen umpires 2 feet from a goal line scrum not able to make the call. It’s silly.



How many games have you worked at umpire?
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