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re: It’s ridiculous.. average nfl career is 3.3 years
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:26 am to BigDaddy5151
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:26 am to BigDaddy5151
Should just have a minor league system.
Most players careers don’t make it past their eligibility in college anyway.
Most players careers don’t make it past their eligibility in college anyway.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:26 am to BigDaddy5151
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average nfl career is 3.3 years
probably longer than that for a first rounder
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Get your degree. Build character.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Nakobe Dean(UGA LB, projected 1st round pick) graduating from UGA with a degree in Mechanical Engineering & a 3.5 GPA.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:31 am to geauxtigers33
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Why do you think you get a say in when a player decides to go pro?
Well they can’t go pro until 21 or 3 years removed out of HS.
That’s the only reason some stay for more than 1 year. Change it to 19 and see what happens.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:33 am to BigDaddy5151
Flott is who he is at this point. Another year won’t improve his draft stock. He’s making the right decision
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:35 am to dgnx6
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That’s the only reason some stay for more than 1 year. Change it to 19 and see what happens.
They would leave and fans would still complain it is too early.
Not really apples to apples but look at basketball and how the fans acted when Naz Reid decided to leave after one year. He is doing great and it was obviously the right move for him to leave.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:37 am to BigDaddy5151
As easy as it is to bash O (and Heaven knows, he deserves his share of it), this culture of “give me 3 years and I’ll put you in the league” started with Les. O just continued it.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:40 am to lsufb1912
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around Nakobe Dean(UGA LB, projected 1st round pick) graduating from UGA with a degree in Mechanical Engineering & a 3.5 GPA.
For some guys, the NFL isn’t their ultimate goal. They want a nice life and career for themselves after they can’t run out under the lights.
The vast majority are shortsighted and only see what’s in front of them NOW.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:42 am to TheFlyingTiger
quote:but they won't have $2.4m in the bank. Taxes will take at least 1/3, and agent fees and living expenses will also take some. If they make extravagant purchases or buy their mom a house, that will take a lot too.
F-you money is real, and 2.4m in the bank by 25years old is f-you money.
Assuming they manage their budget, they could have between $1.0 and $1.25 million in the bank (after taxes) after those 3 years.
Now yes, for a 25 year old, that's spectacular. But not exactly f-you money. Assuming they invest that money and don't want to touch the principal, they could withdraw 4-5% per year ($42k-62k per year), which is taxable.
A very, very good start, but not f-you money at all.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:01 am to memphis tiger
"they should make the money while they can" position by others...lol is short sited and not thought out fully.
I can explain it to you. I can understand it for you though.
Stay and increase your draft stock and increase the odds of you making an NFL team for a while.
I can explain it to you. I can understand it for you though.
Stay and increase your draft stock and increase the odds of you making an NFL team for a while.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:02 am to atltiger6487
atltiger6487
I almost wrote the exact same thing. Dead correct.
I almost wrote the exact same thing. Dead correct.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:07 am to Oilfieldbiology
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However, all his coaches that recruited him and that he built a relationship with have left. I’d selfishly rather him go to the nfl than transfer to another SEC school.
That doesn't compute. He can't stay at LSU because his coaches and recruiter are no longer here so he'll go to a completely different school that has new coaches AND system as a result? So he should go to the NFL with different coaches? It's all about chasing the Money Ball and EGO - plain and simple. Always has been and always will be.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:13 am to atltiger6487
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but they won't have $2.4m in the bank. Taxes will take at least 1/3, and agent fees and living expenses will also take some. If they make extravagant purchases or buy their mom a house, that will take a lot too.
Assuming they manage their budget, they could have between $1.0 and $1.25 million in the bank (after taxes) after those 3 years.
Now yes, for a 25 year old, that's spectacular. But not exactly f-you money. Assuming they invest that money and don't want to touch the principal, they could withdraw 4-5% per year ($42k-62k per year), which is taxable.
A very, very good start, but not f-you money at all.
Ok. I'm not saying this was some exact science scenario, I pulled the 600k/year out of my arse.
It's not out of the realm of possibility for someone like, say... Flott to get out of the League entirely after 5y with 2.5 in the bank.
We all know taxes exist. And mamas. And maybach's. And other bad decisions.
Just trying to explain how 3.3 years in the league might not be a bad payday for a 20yo.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:21 am to mylsuhat
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Fans preaching that players are selfish for leaving so they can no longer entertain them is the most selfish thing in sports
Well that’s not what the OP was preaching. There isn’t anything selfish at all in his post. It might not be completely correct in some cases but it can be in many others.
I would also like to know how people actually know if a player, who’s hardly played or hasn’t physically matured quite yet, when they’ve hit a ceiling or still has some good film to put on? These players are the only ones that would possible know this, if they even know.
Maturity helps tremendously. At their ages, 1 year makes a ton of difference in that maturity process. You want to go to the NFL as an adult or be able to pay someone to handle your money as an adult would. You really don’t want to go half ready or not knowing what’s coming. Some of these kids have no idea!
LSU should definitely bring adults into the room to speak with these guys in a group setting as well as individuals. Have NFL players sit in with financial advisers and ask them questions. Both adults can ask them questions, based on their answers, let them know if it’s best to stay or go but explain exactly why they believe this, so the kids understand where it’s coming from. Then they make their own decisions!
Posted on 1/4/22 at 11:53 am to BigDaddy5151
Injury risk is a real concern, but it’s also severely overstated. A day 2/day 3 player has a much higher risk of being cut and out of the League because they didn’t immediately land in a good situation for them than they do getting injured in a way that meaningfully impacts their career. 6th rounders opting out of games in order to go pro is just foolishness.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 11:56 am to BigDaddy5151
If you're graded round 3 or higher and you don't expect to get higher with more time in college, I understand if they want to bounce to the NFL and give it a go.
If you grade rounds 4-7 or UFA, go back to school. Neil Farrell Jr. is a perfect example of why you should.
Flott going pro right now makes no sense. If he comes back he gets a full year starting at DB in a secondary that would return a fair bit of experience. He could also use the additional year to get a little bigger. He's a perfect example of a player with solid talent, but could use the extra time in college before taking a shot at the NFL.
If you grade rounds 4-7 or UFA, go back to school. Neil Farrell Jr. is a perfect example of why you should.
Flott going pro right now makes no sense. If he comes back he gets a full year starting at DB in a secondary that would return a fair bit of experience. He could also use the additional year to get a little bigger. He's a perfect example of a player with solid talent, but could use the extra time in college before taking a shot at the NFL.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 12:02 pm to stho381
We can keep selling the NFL dream.
We just have to make sure we sell it as “maximize your NFL dream”
Guys like Smith and Harris don’t go back for their senior year because they love Alabama. They go back because they are convinced they can better their draft stock if they go back, and both of them did.
Plenty of Juniors leave Alabama early, but they end up getting drafted pretty high.
It’s a crazy year and we had a huge amount of coaching turnover. Everyone on the Defensive side is gone, so it’s hard to pitch that advice.
We just have to make sure we sell it as “maximize your NFL dream”
Guys like Smith and Harris don’t go back for their senior year because they love Alabama. They go back because they are convinced they can better their draft stock if they go back, and both of them did.
Plenty of Juniors leave Alabama early, but they end up getting drafted pretty high.
It’s a crazy year and we had a huge amount of coaching turnover. Everyone on the Defensive side is gone, so it’s hard to pitch that advice.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 12:44 pm to BigDaddy5151
Posted this in another thread, here’s where early entrants from LSU have gone since 2010:
- 1st round: 14
- 2nd round: 11
- 3rd round: 9
- 4th round: 5
- 5th round: 2
- 6th round: 1
- 7th round: 2
- Undrafted: 9
- Total: 53
So 47% have gone in the first two rounds and 64% of them have gone in the first three rounds.
Further, a lot of the guys who have gone late/UDFA have either been players with off the field issues (e.g. facing suspension/dismissal), players who were going to see less playing time if they stayed, or players with legit injury concerns who were just trying to get to a contract while they still could. I’d say that accounts for at least half of the late round picks or undrafted players based on my research yesterday. It’s hard to argue that anyone who falls into these categories would be better off waiting a year.
And that’s without accounting for factors like players’ personal situations, coaching changes, draft grades, etc. that impact their decisions regardless of the actual outcomes.
My point is that the perceived problem is kind of overstated. There have only been a handful of LSU players over the past decade that objectively made a mistake, in hindsight, by leaving early.
- 1st round: 14
- 2nd round: 11
- 3rd round: 9
- 4th round: 5
- 5th round: 2
- 6th round: 1
- 7th round: 2
- Undrafted: 9
- Total: 53
So 47% have gone in the first two rounds and 64% of them have gone in the first three rounds.
Further, a lot of the guys who have gone late/UDFA have either been players with off the field issues (e.g. facing suspension/dismissal), players who were going to see less playing time if they stayed, or players with legit injury concerns who were just trying to get to a contract while they still could. I’d say that accounts for at least half of the late round picks or undrafted players based on my research yesterday. It’s hard to argue that anyone who falls into these categories would be better off waiting a year.
And that’s without accounting for factors like players’ personal situations, coaching changes, draft grades, etc. that impact their decisions regardless of the actual outcomes.
My point is that the perceived problem is kind of overstated. There have only been a handful of LSU players over the past decade that objectively made a mistake, in hindsight, by leaving early.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 12:49 pm to BigDaddy5151
I am not a fan of players leaving early but there is a chance on every play, whether it is in college or the NFL, of getting a severe or career ending injury. RB's are smart to go as early as possible to the NFL. I think you get a pension after 5yrs of being a player in the NFL so I would rather risk injury there than in college.
Posted on 1/4/22 at 3:31 pm to BigDaddy5151
The prob is they all want the fancy car with spinning rims and the presidential watch but they should focus on getting their degree and when they do go pro they should spend and save their money wisely or they'll end up like all the ex NFL millionaire stars who wound up broke like Andre Rison, Bernie Kosar etc...
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