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Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:15 am to Cs
Things are getting
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This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:15 am to blackinthesaddle
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Not our border, not our fight.
Well, he ain't doing a damn thing on our south border....he is a loser of a human being and should resign yesterday!
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:20 am to Decatur
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What do you want Biden to do?
Pretty simple and a stupid question. You bring the force of nato if you actually want to try and stop it
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:21 am to oldskule
The biggest lesson in this is never give up your guns and rely on others for security.
In 2014 Ukraine gave up it’s nuclear arsenal with the agreement The US and UK would defend her.
2021 and we ain’t doing shite.
Never give up your guns and rely on the US government for security.
In 2014 Ukraine gave up it’s nuclear arsenal with the agreement The US and UK would defend her.
2021 and we ain’t doing shite.
Never give up your guns and rely on the US government for security.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:28 am to bird35
It was the 90s, and the Ukrainians didn't have the Soviet codes to arm the warheads, so they were useless.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:32 am to Cs
It's all fun and games until Joe sends a few battalions of trained killers with freshly removed genitals
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:32 am to boosiebadazz
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How is defending Ukraine advancing an America First agenda?
How is lifting sanctions on Russia Russia Russia oligarchs to allow completion of the Nordstream pipeline to Germany advancing an America First agenda?
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 11:34 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:33 am to Cs
Good. Ukraine has been a haven for Democrat corruption since the Clintons.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:33 am to boosiebadazz
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How is defending Ukraine advancing an America First agenda?
Have we formally backed out of our agreement to do so? If not, then are bound to that agreement, aren't we? I agree that we need to let the players work it out, but not if that means bitching out on agreements we've made.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:33 am to xxTIMMYxx
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Pretty simple and a stupid question. You bring the force of nato if you actually want to try and stop it
Is that what everyone here wants him to do?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:34 am to Cs
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Russia is preparing for a full blown invasion of Ukraine.
Nah.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:35 am to Decatur
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What do you want Biden to do?
What would democrats be demanding Trump do in the same situation?
I expect you people to demand Biden do at least what you’d demand Trump do. But I’d be asking too much because we know you hypocrites would have a completely different set of standards if Trump were in this situation.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:36 am to homesicktiger
We have no reason to pick fights with Russia. It doesn't do anything for us - we don't benefit, in any way.
If we had a good relationship with Russia though, it would come at Chinas expense, and it would strengthen us vs China.
If we had a good relationship with Russia though, it would come at Chinas expense, and it would strengthen us vs China.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:39 am to Cs
Yea but are they vaccinated or not?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:46 am to bird35
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In 2014 Ukraine gave up it’s nuclear arsenal with the agreement The US and UK would defend her.
Ukraine gave up its nukes in the early 90's.
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with the agreement The US and UK would defend her.
That was not a condition of the Budapest Memorandum. The US and UK are not obligated to militarily defend Ukraine or its sovereignty by any agreement.
The US, UK, and Russia merely committed to respect the territorial sovereignty of Belarus, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan, and refrain from using force against those three nations.
There are no defensive obligations for any party to the Memo beyond seeking UN Security Council assistance if an aggressor threatens Belarus, Ukraine, or Kazakhstan.
So no, we are not obligated to do anything other than introduce a UNSC resolution that will get veto'd by Russia and China.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 11:49 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:46 am to Cs
Hunter better hurry up and negotiate a deal with Transneft so he and "Big Guy" can continue to get their oil royalties from that region.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:47 am to troyt37
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Have we formally backed out of our agreement to do so?
We do not have any agreement to do so.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:49 am to Cs
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The US has backed off providing Ukraine with more surface to air missiles
This right here is the perfect example of why Putin is doing this now. Putin takes Crimea. Obama sends night vision goggles.
Trump sent missiles.
Biden halts it, and now Putin will take eastern Ukraine. We should send more night vision goggles so at least the Ukraine army watch the invasion as it unfolds.
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