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Why in the hell isn't A&M targeting Klieman?

Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:23 am
Posted by BanzaiBengal
Member since Sep 2023
725 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:23 am
A&M is not a school that can just go get whoever without throwing them enough money to feed all of Alabama fatass fans for a week.

You get Klieman cheap as frick and he's a damn good coach. And would be first call if I was AD.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36494 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:25 am to
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You get Klieman cheap as frick


Based on what? He’s a top 10 coach right now.
Posted by BanzaiBengal
Member since Sep 2023
725 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:27 am to
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He’s a top 10 coach right now.


He is, but yet there he sits at Kansas State.

He might be a top ten coach to people who know football but he is continuously looked over.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36494 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:32 am to
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He is, but yet there he sits at Kansas State.

He might be a top ten coach to people who know football but he is continuously looked over.


He’s just finishing his 5th season at KSU. He’s not been looked over.

Do you not think the people making hires “know football “?

Maybe he likes it at KSU? Maybe he’s waiting on the right opportunity? The dominoes are just starting to fall.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15850 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:33 am to
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Do you not think the people making hires “know football

As I sit this morning, I would wager that Ross Bjork does not know football.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36494 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:34 am to
Lol, true.

Klieman would be the absolute best-case home run hire for A&M.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
4443 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:35 am to
Perhaps they did and he didn't have interest.
Posted by DeltaHog
Member since Sep 2009
767 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:35 am to
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Do you not think the people making hires “know football “?



lol you can’t be serious with this
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61602 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:50 am to
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As I sit this morning, I would wager that Ross Bjork does not know football.


The only thing Bjork knows is who Jimmy Sexton has as his clients.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:53 am to
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Klieman would be the absolute best-case home run hire for A&M.


Doubt.

He needs a school on the level that won't require elite recruiting.

I can't remember the last time one of these "lunch pail" type coaches from a backwater succeeded at big boy football. These guys are very good at what they do, but that doesn't translate to title contention. There is ceiling to their teams.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116445 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:07 am to
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Do you not think the people making hires “know football “?


Most of these searches start with multi million dollar consulting searches who identify the same 4 candidates you find at the top of every message board topic

The assumption of competence is not one anyone should make for the top levels of CFB decision making
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45408 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:26 am to
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Do you not think the people making hires “know football “?



Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52989 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:27 am to
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I can't remember the last time one of these "lunch pail" type coaches from a backwater succeeded at big boy football.


Miles won a Natty
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:30 am to
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Miles won a Natty

Miles was not a lunchpail type at OSU, brother.

Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13111 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:34 am to
This was my question.

Is there a different skill set required between recruiting solid 3* players who are highly coachable vs recruiting 5* players who might be divas
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52989 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:37 am to
Eh. He was at a little brother school that would upset big brother occasionally with lesser talent. The box you are building around Klieman is way to restrictive. Rhule at Baylor could have fit that mold also.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:39 am to
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Is there a different skill set required between recruiting solid 3* players who are highly coachable vs recruiting 5* players who might be divas

1000000 %

The divas/special rules guys don't work in those programs. But you need those guys to win titles.

It's just a completely different philosophy and skillset.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33757 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:40 am to
Exhibit A would be Dan Mullen.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52989 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:41 am to
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Is there a different skill set required between recruiting solid 3* players who are highly coachable vs recruiting 5* players who might be divas


If you can coach you can coach. To me the biggest difference is can they handle all the outside noise and meddling that happens at bigger programs with higher expectations.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:41 am to
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He was at a little brother school that would upset big brother occasionally with lesser talent.

Didn't one of the Woods brothers have like 8 TDs in a game?

That ain't lunchpail football, brother.

You can come from smaller schools and not be lunch pail. From the same era, just look at Urban Meyer. Or Rich Rod. Innovative and aggressive coaches from smaller schools who can recruit aren't the same type of coaches as the "lunchpail" types.

Miles was seen as an aggressive offensive guy. Skip was wrong. He should have hired Petrino, who fit the same mold.

*ETA: Brian Kelly is also not a lunchpail guy who cut his teeth at lower levels implementing innovative offenses. Chip Kelly, too. Kalen DeBoer is one of those guys having success today.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:43 am
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