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re: UH in discussions over Herman extension

Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:37 pm to
I bet they target Applewhite as the replacement HC
Posted by 0
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:46 pm to
Either him or their DC Orlando. Both look to be good candidates.
Posted by SwatMitchell
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:47 pm to
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that thing's been empty all year


This part is not true...

But UH will have a very hard time coming up with the $$ to keep the assistant coaches.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:53 pm to
Crowd was terrible on that Thursday night game they hosted a few weeks ago
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:58 pm to
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Stats say their lowest attended game was last week at 38,000.


And schools never ever lie about attendance. Especially Group of 5 schools.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:01 pm to
Paid attendance is not actual butts in seats
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:04 pm to
He ain't coming Tigers.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:07 pm to
Part of this about doing everything in their power to keep Herman even though the chances are now slim without a Big 12 invite, and part of it's about showing their next coach how serious they are about building a great program.

UH might be the top G5 job, but its biggest challenge has proven to be keeping a coach for more than a few years at a time. That's why they were said to be targeting Leach before they hired Herman. I wonder if they go for a similar kind of hire this time around--they sacrifice the super high ceiling that a young up-and-comer brings and inevitably takes with him to a P5 program, and instead settle on an older but steadier guy who'll hang around for a while and win often, but only deliver a great season (NY6 bowl) every few years.
Posted by 0
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:10 pm to
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UH might be the top G5 job, but its biggest challenge has proven to be keeping a coach for more than a few years at a time. That's why they were said to be targeting Leach before they hired Herman. I wonder if they go for a similar kind of hire this time around--they sacrifice the super high ceiling that a young up-and-comer brings and inevitably takes with him to a P5 program, and instead settle on an older but steadier guy who'll hang around for a while and win often, but only deliver a great season (NY6 bowl) every few years.


The problem is it's still a stepping stone G5 job and as long as that's the case holding on to coaches will always be hard. Might as well try to hit home runs and worry about the replacement when the time comes.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:21 pm to
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This doesn't look good for a school that has had to put up 20 million a year for athletics because they don't generate any income.


Agreed. They wreak of desperation. I would respect UH a lot more if they weren't scrambling, unless its all a PR move to act like they'e going "to do whatever it takes".
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:31 pm to
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This part is not true...


every home game of their's that ive watched hasnt been close to full
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:41 pm to
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He ain't coming Tigers.
That may be, but he damn sure isn't staying in Houston.
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:43 pm to
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UH might be the top G5 job, but its biggest challenge has proven to be keeping a coach for more than a few years at a time.


Until UH joins a P5 conference AND to have a bigger stadium, it will be tough to keep a good young coach longer. All this means he's gone and hopefully as a new Tigers coach next year.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:55 pm to
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maybe. It depends on who else is involved. I'd guess closer to 6/5 and a 4-year guarantee


He's not getting 6 from any program. That would be stupid as frick to pay him that much given that the Saban is only making 7 and he has nowhere near the hardware Saban does.
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:02 am to
I still haven't even heard from someone who claims "sources" on this board say that Herman is #1 for LSU. And if he isn't made to feel like a top priority, i don't think we have a chance. To go with the fact that F King can't seem to stfu.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:21 am to
Damn. Just learned what G5 means! lol
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:34 am to
They're gonna lock him down

Poor lsu
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:47 am to
Houston's board president probably has more money than all of LSU's boosters combined

Not that any of that matters because Herman isn't staying for equal money in Houston anyways but the LSU fans thinking they'll just buy him away are foolish
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 1:52 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:10 am to
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Houston's board president probably has more money than all of LSU's boosters combined Not that any of that matters because Herman isn't staying for equal money in Houston anyways but the LSU fans thinking they'll just buy him away are foolish


Booster money is all fine and dandy. And most of their pay comes from private funding anyway. We know this.

But they've had that big booster for a while and he let Art Briles go, he let Kevin Sumlin go, and he's going to let Herman go. Because at the end of the day, it just doesn't make sense to pour millions of dollars on a coach for a football program that doesn't make any money. Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, LSU, and the like make millions and millions of dollars before the boosters even have a say. It makes sense for a Texas or an LSU to have a great coach. It doesn't make much sense for Houston. LSU athletics gives millions each year to the school. Houston meanwhile, has to give their athletic department millions to make ends meet. That's the difference.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:18 am to
I am not worried about Houston retaining Herman. He had to rip up shitty floors at their football facility himself because nobody wanted to pay for it.
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