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Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:29 pm to The Pirate King
I bet you believe in the tooth fairy also.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:45 am to hondo
He is the AD, he makes the hires.
Not sure why our fanbase continues giving him a pass
Not sure why our fanbase continues giving him a pass
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:48 am to OceanMan
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He is the AD, he makes the hires.
If you want Woody to make assistant hires, you should want O gone.
The same people promoting this drivel were in support of giving Freeman the reigns over hiring DL and Safety position coaches.
What the hell do you guys want?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:54 am to OceanMan
Exactly. He's the reason Pelini and O's contract are bloated right now. It's a combination of Woody and O for accountability. They're both at fault with Pelini last year and the same with the DC search going now.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:56 am to hondo
Why would Woody release details of confidential negotiations? Of course he is involved; what do you want, a press conference?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:32 pm to gerkin
Me too. The much ballyhooed hiring of Scott Woodward is looking less and less impressive all the time.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:14 pm to jrodLSUke
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a press conference?
Less of these...and more actual vetting and interviewing would be swell
Posted on 1/20/21 at 2:25 pm to Geauxldilocks
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If you want Woody to make assistant hires, you should want O gone.
He is the AD, it’s his job. Yea the HC makes the selections and should, but the ADs office extends the offers and gets it across the finish line.
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The same people promoting this drivel were in support of giving Freeman the reigns over hiring DL and Safety position coaches.
You are confused on the chain of command. The coach can pick their guy, but the procedure is on the AD.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 2:40 pm to hondo
Woodward is doing his job pefectly.
This whole process is Woodward setting up EdO to hang himself. And EdO is dumb enough to let Ponamsky be the guy to tie the rope. If Woodward nixes Edo's hires, or hands him a list of names to choose from, then Scott cannot fire EdO.
Do you really think that Bama, Clemson, ND, OSU would allow their head coach to hire both coordinators with neither one ever being a coordinator before? IN THE SAME YEAR? That's elite football suicide, and Orgeron is gleefully committing it. An experienced guy like Woodward is just waiting and watching.
This whole process is Woodward setting up EdO to hang himself. And EdO is dumb enough to let Ponamsky be the guy to tie the rope. If Woodward nixes Edo's hires, or hands him a list of names to choose from, then Scott cannot fire EdO.
Do you really think that Bama, Clemson, ND, OSU would allow their head coach to hire both coordinators with neither one ever being a coordinator before? IN THE SAME YEAR? That's elite football suicide, and Orgeron is gleefully committing it. An experienced guy like Woodward is just waiting and watching.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 2:45 pm to League Champs
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This whole process is Woodward setting up EdO to hang himself.
a narrative totally invented by tRant and people keep saying it like it's true or a fact. So Woodward's goal is to push LSU football in to mediocrity or worse for the next 3+ years (it will take at least 2 probably 3 more years to fire O for performance related issues) to fire a HC who just won a NC last year? If true Woodward should be fired immediately.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 3:03 pm to Tiger Tracker
Woodward wants to be president. He does not envision EdO as the face of his university's athletics. I imagine that he's also seen enough of the Title IX stuff, that he believes EdO is on the way out, and his hires will go with him. So Scott is just biding his time, at this point.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 3:07 pm to josh336
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Not an ADs job to hire coordinators, a coach should
Thanks for making his point.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 3:10 pm to League Champs
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I imagine that he's also seen enough of the Title IX stuff, that he believes EdO is on the way out, and his hires will go with him
So rather than help O get a good hire that could potentially be the HC in the future, if O was to be canned for Title IX stuff, his goal is to just let LSU football go back to mediocrity until O is gone? Seems like a horrible plan and I say again, if that's true, then fire Woodward immediately.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 3:17 pm to hondo
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With O’s recent terrible track record hiring assistants I felt Scott W. Would step up and not let O embarrass the athletic department again. Certainly Scott had to be a part of the hiring process this time.
In fairness to Orgeron and Woodard, no one on here seems to know who is calling the shots. I can tell you how such decisions are ideally made.
Orgeron is the head football coach. He should have control over the hire because its his job to recognize good coaches and because it would set the program up for dysfunction to hire a coach that he does not approve.
Woodard is an administrator, not a football coach. His job is to hire Orgeron, not to tell Orgeron how to coach or who to hire. If he thinks Orgeron is picking bad coaches, then he should fire Orgeron, not pick his coaches.
Woodward does and should have say so on money issues with the contract and in making sure the coach is properly vetted.
All that said, if Orgeron and Woodward have a functional relationship, they are accepting input from each other, both on who the coach should be and his salary.
But never should a AD force an assistant coach on a head coach. That would be inviting dysfunction.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 4:46 pm to hondo
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I felt Scott W. Would step up and not let O embarrass the athletic department again. Certainly Scott had to be a part of the hiring process this time.
So you want us to turn into Texas or Tennessee, where the AD is involved in the process?
Look, the AD hires the HC. The HC hires his assistants. The AD gets involved if there is a money or contractual issue, but he's not picking the assistants. Unless it's Texas or Tennessee.
If the AD doesn't have confidence in the HC to pick assistants, the correct and only response is to fire the HC.
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Certainly Scott knows that he cannot give O complete control to make these picks
Do you want to know why Urban isn't HC at Texas?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 4:55 pm to OceanMan
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You are confused on the chain of command. The coach can pick their guy, but the procedure is on the AD.
Ultimately, the decision to sign contracts goes to the LSU BOS. Do you think the BOS should be involved in every coaching hire interview and decision?
The AD's role here is paperwork and money. Anything more than that, and you end up with dysfunction.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 4:57 pm to paper tiger
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Woodard is an administrator, not a football coach. His job is to hire Orgeron, not to tell Orgeron how to coach or who to hire. If he thinks Orgeron is picking bad coaches, then he should fire Orgeron, not pick his coaches.
Woodward does and should have say so on money issues with the contract and in making sure the coach is properly vetted.
I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 5:25 pm to Tiger Tracker
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his goal is to just let LSU football go back to mediocrity until O is gone?
O may not be here next year, if the NCAA slams EdO and football's inaction to multiple rapes under his watch.
And the last coach that SW hired just finished #5 in the nation, with an all-SEC schedule, so I think mediocrity is not in our future under Scott, with or without EdO.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 6:19 pm to hondo
quote:prolly this. If Ed isn't capable of interviewing and hiring a coach, he doesn't need to be a head coach.
unless you want him to fail so you can put your stamp on selecting a new head football coach
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