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Thought Scott W. Would supervise O’s hires

Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:57 pm
Posted by hondo
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:57 pm
With O’s recent terrible track record hiring assistants I felt Scott W. Would step up and not let O embarrass the athletic department again. Certainly Scott had to be a part of the hiring process this time. If O is only a glorified cheerleader then who the hell is helping him make the most important decisions that the football program has to make.? Certainly Scott knows that he cannot give O complete control to make these picks.? Can he.?
Posted by GeauxO19
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:59 pm to
Seen it from the same ones reporting everything else that woody has been in charge of all of this.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:01 pm to
You’d think the Athletic Director would take an interest in the process being used to fill a high profile vacancy in the schools cash cow sport. Wondering wtf it is he does all day over there.

Local media will call out O but not a peep about Scott is infuriating

Newsflash Scott: YOU CAN INTERVIEW MORE THAN ONE CANDIDATE AT A TIME!

Also your HC doesn’t have to go on radio every week to give the whole football world the inside scoop on what you’re thinking and doing behind the scenes.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:02 pm to
Not an ADs job to hire coordinators, a coach should
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:05 pm to
When the head coach of your cash cow has performed so miserably hiring assistants it is incumbent upon you as AD to help him unless you want him to fail so you can put your stamp on selecting a new head football coach . Which is it .?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:06 pm to
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Not an ADs job to hire coordinators, a coach should


He shouldn’t force a guy on the coach but he absolutely should be involved in the process, such as communicating with agents of the top candidates to see if there are potential contractual stumbling blocks. Or to call the HC of the NFL team you’re hiring from to request permission to interview.

The football coach should coach football and not handle the administrative details.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:07 pm to
He is but O still has input. They're both bad at hiring assistants. He's not just going to handcuff O so badly he pisses him off. It's more of a mutual agreement. They're both shitting the bed just like they did with Pelini. Woody is quickly turning into a worse hire than Alleva.

The better question you should be asking is if O is a glorified cheerleader as you said why did this admin sign off on that contract? The Pelini contract was ridiculous too for somebody NOBODY was calling to come coach their team so now you put yourself in a hole during Covid-19 year. Every DC will expect about as much as Pelini or see that as an insult. They're going to use LSU for leverage when you pay top money like that.

tl;dr Woody is definitely involved but probably not like you think.

I don't care if you win a NC or not a coach who must have great assistants around him like Miles/O shouldn't be getting the money O is getting on top of his ridiculous buyout( ). That money should be used for elite top flight possibly NFL type coordinators. LSU shite the bed on O and Pelini's contract. It was getting caught up in the moment on a high of last season but not objectively looking at it from a business point. The main reason is they're the biggest risk HCs to put your program in a hole when their fate is dictated on how good their top assistants are so you can't financially risk that. It's not like anyone is coming to buy Orgeron out let's be real.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:16 pm
Posted by gerkin
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:19 pm to
For all the pomp when woodward was hired, im losing patience
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:22 pm to
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I don't care if you win a NC or not


Then why are you watching? That’s the goal here and O got us one and will get us another. He’s worth every dime he’s making
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
10025 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

For all the pomp when woodward was hired, im losing patience


He’s been awful in every scenario so far.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:41 pm to
I'm saying from a business point of view them dumping the money they did on Pelini and O wasn't smart. O deserved a raise but to get what he did? C'mon. Same with Pelini. The dude was making like 100k or something before getting offered a whopping millions? There was nobody calling him it wasn't like he was a hot commodity. That was just them bending over with no negotiation skills.

They couldn't predict Covid but damn was that a bad business decision any way you slice it. And if the word is correct LSU has a lower budget right now on the coaching hire. This may be another reason why coaches are not coming here because we're not paying as much as we usually do.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:46 pm to
Its almost at the point where I'll be happy to take Alleva back.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

If O is only a glorified cheerleader then who the hell is helping him make the most important decisions that the football program has to make.?
O has made it clear that he trusts Ponamsky with all of the initial legwork.
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Certainly Scott knows that he cannot give O complete control to make these picks.? Can he.?
Yes he can, just like every other AD would. If you can’t trust the coach to put together his own staff then he shouldn’t be the coach. Not to mention if you pick the wrong assistants for him then you have no grounds to fire him for under performing.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:52 pm to
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O has made it clear that he trusts Ponamsky with all of the initial legwork.


That Woodward not only allows this but then apparently does little or no follow up on the back end is mind numbing
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:55 pm to
Yes, that's the brain numbing part. Woody puts the keys of the program in the hands of T-Derek.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:56 pm to
No, O has the keys and handed them to T-Boy.
Posted by TigerFlask
Colorado
Member since Oct 2004
311 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:56 pm to
Can you syssup's quit coming on here and crying. I have never seen anything like this. Get back in momma's basement and eat some meatloaf and play video games.
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3294 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

For all the pomp when woodward was hired, im losing patience


Ole Huey P. Woodward.

Good ole boy politics at work. Business as usual for La.
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
1023 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:25 pm to
Deuce 985, Great points.LSU and Woodward are embarrassing themselves and OUR university.. Oh , bet that 5 star linebacker from California is impressed.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27253 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:34 pm to
You can't be serious
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