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This was posted a few weeks ago...and needs to be read by every LSU fan.

Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:23 pm
It's a fairly apt summary of the direction in which this program is headed.

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Just have to get this off my chest.

Everyone always asks about "why LSU wasn't good before Saban?" "Why did it take so long for LSU to get over the hump?" The answer to those questions lies in a few nuanced reasons, but ultimately, LSU refused to do what was necessary to compete at the highest level. What ultimately turned LSU around was a commitment to leverage our elite natural resources, which of course meant financial investment. We've had a couple of bad omens recently that signal a reversion back to that style of decision making.

1. We heard for the longest time about this state of the art stand alone nutrition center, which ultimately was relegated to a floor in the stadium due to a "climate of austerity.";

2. The failing to fire Les Miles, again, due to a "climate of austerity" and optics interplaying with political pressure to block the logical decision. Of course the latter ultimately cost us the chance at an elite coach and championship caliber season. Fast-forward to present day.

All reports indicate that the administration was VERY inclined to give the job to Ed Orgeron had he won out. I hate that this situation has lead to disparaging of Coach O. I want Coach Orgeron to be a part of this program, recruiting on behalf of LSU, as long as possible. The idea that the administration would have acquiesced to the "easy" decision instead of FIRST, regardless what O did, going after the BEST COACH POSSIBLE, is very disheartening.

They were willing to hand the reins of a top-5 job over to a career position coach that had a less than stellar stint as a HC. That is not the kind of decision that puts you on the plane of teams such as Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, who went out and got their elite candidate. Is that not what we want to be? Don't scratch your head when we are perennially 9-3/8-4 and you actually lose money in opportunity cost of merchandize/seat revenue. Now we don't want to get into a bidding war with Texas and Oregon.

Now we're worried about how much it would cost to go get Jimbo. Going into this with that mentality will only lead to disappointment, and will actually cost you more in the long run. Hopefully LSU isn't reverting back to the pre-2000s where political forces had their thumbs on the decisions of what could be an elite program. With all due respect to Sonny, but I hope his report is incorrect, and simply based on information disseminated to mislead.

Hopefully we already have our guy because based on the mentality signaled in that update (along with others), we've already failed this search.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 7:53 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40399 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23099 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:28 pm to
It's spot on, but far too long for the O supporters. Maybe try to post a coloring book version for them.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
48720 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:29 pm to
LSU is back to the Joe Dean days and some think it's a good thing.

Joe was a zero vision AD. 500k in black as good times. I've said it, you say it, others have said it --- just a short-sighted defeatist mentality. It fits Louisiana culture.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:30 pm to
Thats exactly how I feel.

Settling for Orgeron shows that the administration doesn't have a want for LSU to be Elite.
It showed last year when they were cheap on Les and let him come back.
Until they clean house, I'm not spending money or resources going to games or buying gear.
Combine this with the Johnny ordeal and it is piss poor
Posted by Tommy Longbaugh
Member since Aug 2016
281 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

political forces had their thumbs on the decisions of what could be an elite program.

I think this is the real problem. It's why we didn't get rid of Les last year, and it probably handcuffed how much we were willing to pay this year. We have boosters with enough money to pay the big bucks, but the political angle is killing us.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

It's spot on, but far too long for the O supporters. Maybe try to post a coloring book version for them.


Something like this should get their attention.

Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:36 pm to
Good ol Jindal and his trickle down economics really fricked the state.
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

It's spot on, but far too long for the O supporters. Maybe try to post a coloring book version for them.


Or a binder with pictures like Ponamsky put together for O.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 7:39 pm
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5659 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:39 pm to
Excellent. Who wrote it?
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Tommy Longbaugh
Member since Aug 2016
281 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:40 pm to
Jindal would have let LSU spend the money. JBE is the one holding it up.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 12:26 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65578 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:42 pm to
Whoomp, there it is!
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9256 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:42 pm to
Some people think we're running an internship program for local guys who "love LSU" and not a championship caliber football operation. They just want to give O a "shot and see if it works out".

That's not how this is supposed to work .
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57264 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:43 pm to
ouch
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38892 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Don't scratch your head when we are perennially 9-3/8-4 and you actually lose money in opportunity cost of merchandize/seat revenue. Now we don't want to get into a bidding war with Texas and Oregon.


Bingo
O has no shot at competing with top level coaches and programs. And everyone, including our administration knows this. That's the problem. They have no interest in national championships.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 7:57 pm
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15939 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:47 pm to
Can we sticky this? It's so spot on.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
92293 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

LSU is back to the Joe Dean days and some think it's a good thing.



WATCH OUT! you will be called a fake fan by dimwits here regardless how die hard and supportive you have been!
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:51 pm to
The crying bitches like you would probably enjoy coloring books more.

How fricking long are y'all going to throw a hissy fit? Why not just go cheer for Texas or FSU since y'all seem to be fans of coaches over LSU
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29701 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 7:51 pm to
But he talks like us. Geaux eaux freaux deaux
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