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re: Think about how short sighted the search was for Miles...
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Miles had the same issues wasting the 2006 team that he had later. 2006 is the best all around team of the Miles era in terms of talent. He was always too conservative. It was just his mindset.
I will always wonder what 2005 would have been without Katrina/Rita.
To navigate that season with 1 regular season loss in OT was incredible.
By the sec CG that team was worn out.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 10:15 pm
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:14 pm to Schmelly
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All this piling on Miles
Right. Back up off my coarch
For the record, I wanted Butch Davis since we couldn’t have Spurrier. Butch had been fired by the Browns before Saban left, but I think he wanted some time off.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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2006 is the best all around team of the Miles era in terms of talent.
05 was basically the 06 roster plus:
Whit
Niswanger
Nate Livings
Addai
Kyle Williams
Claude Wroten
Yeah 06 had super saiyan JRock, LASIK Bowe and some younger guys/ freshmen make an impact, but I’d have liked to see that 05 squad without the hurricane stuff/ no bye.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:24 pm to S
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Miles also embraced the goofball persona way too much. He was actually pretty intense those first 2-3 years (ask Tracy Wolfson.)
So glad you said this and got me to go back and find this. haha Les was one of a kind.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:25 pm to Schmelly
y’all are soft a different warm body wins in 2006 and 2011.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:34 pm to TheosDeddy
Les was a great coach. Ask anyone who played for him. Did he not adapt towards the end? Yeah… but that’s not that uncommon.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:43 am to TheosDeddy
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Spurrier was available Mike leach was at Texas Tech Rich Rod at WVU Dan Hawkins at Boise
Are you serious with this shite? Spurrier hated LSU because he didn’t get the job in like 1990 and never would have come. Those other three never had any success at another school. Leach maybe a little, but those other two were terrible.
Hell, Rich Rod even turned Bama down and that’s how they ended up with Saban.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:47 am to Schmelly
If Miles could have developed QB's properly, he would have beat Saban every time. His whole arse tenure outside of Flynn had nothing but horrible QB play.
He had QB's that couldn't even complete a 3rd and 7 most years.
He had QB's that couldn't even complete a 3rd and 7 most years.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:24 am to TheosDeddy
Just bc it didn't win the press conference doesn't mean it was a bad hire. In hindsight it was pretty damn good actually
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:54 am to TheosDeddy
Les beat spurrier’s arse and he retired.
The rest aren’t even worth mentioning.
The rest aren’t even worth mentioning.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:08 am to dgnx6
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He was always too conservative. It was just his mindset.
I don't think that was always the case. He slung it around pretty good when he had the quarterback to do so. However, he was never the same after the pick 6 season.
I don't think people fully appreciate the number that losing Ryan Perilloux did on the trajectory of LSU football for a few years.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 7:09 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:21 am to Boloknight
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If Miles could have developed QB's properly, he would have beat Saban every time.
Yup. As I've said many times, we didn't need star QBs, we needed consistently competent QBs that got you around 200 yards/ 2 TDs/ 60-65% passing on a weekly basis. That probably gets us another natty or 2 over Les's tenure.
He and Saban were basically trying to do the same thing - strong running game, control the LOS on both sides of the ball, deep/ athletic defense, and QBs who did just enough. Saban didn't really have "All star" QBs until Hurts and Tua.
But whereas Bama rolled out McCarron or Coker who managed the games, we had Lee, Jefferson and Jennings who would either throw Ints and/ or complete less than 50% of their passes.
Most of the Les era teams could survive a game manager who had a bad game; your starter going 7 games without a TD pass (with a bunch of Ints) like Jefferson did or being sub-50% comp for a whole season like Jennings is a no go.
Ironically, the prototype Les QB was Etling, somebody they rehabbed after he was kinda Lee-like at Purdue.
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His whole arse tenure outside of Flynn had nothing but horrible QB play.
Hey now, Les had Jamarcus both years he was the main starter.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:30 am to TigersD69
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He slung it around pretty good when he had the quarterback to do so.
For Miles? Yes
Objectively for CFB? No
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I don't think people fully appreciate the number that losing Ryan Perilloux did on the trajectory of LSU football for a few years.
Hot take: RP wouldn't have been that good at LSU
He didn't dominate shitty 1AA the way a guy of his legendary status should have, and as a RS Soph (3rd year) in 2007 he was still limited to just running/option plays.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 7:31 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:32 am to Boloknight
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His whole arse tenure outside of Flynn had nothing but horrible QB play.
Except the best QB in CFB in 2006 who made Flynn look like a middle schooler in the MSU game
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:34 am to ATLTiger
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Most of the Les era teams could survive a game manager who had a bad game; your starter going 7 games without a TD pass (with a bunch of Ints) like Jefferson did or being sub-50% comp for a whole season like Jennings is a no go.
A big issue with Les was just a fundamental misunderstanding of offense in college for that era. Where everyone else was getting more advanced and simplifying things, Les wanted a complicated offense.
We also had a bad run of guys showing out late in their true freshman year and then getting the starter job because of that only to never develop...allowing some other kid to come in and repeat that pattern.
Seriously I think that happened with Jefferson, Jennings, and Harris
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:35 am to TheosDeddy
Miles delivered the winningest decade of LSU football. Consistently competing for SEC and National titles.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:36 am to Boloknight
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His whole arse tenure outside of Flynn had nothing but horrible QB play.
Laughs in Jamarcus and Mettenberger
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:43 am to TheosDeddy
Something about a nail and hammer...
I miss Miles.
I don't miss 66 toss dives per game though.
I miss Miles.
I don't miss 66 toss dives per game though.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:45 am to arktiger28
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Come on. He won a NC and got us to another. Most teams would consider that a great hire.
And Miles kept LSU relevant after October for most of his coaching years which made the LSU/ AL game one of the most watched in college football.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:51 am to TheosDeddy
Mikes was a good hire. Brought Oklahoma state back to relevance. Teams played hard. Had upsets. Good balance on offense. Was it thr best possible hire probably not, but it was a good hire. And it started well.
Miles problem was 2008. He was already more conservative than optimal (see auburn game 2006) and failing to change with the times but the interceptions in 2008 changed him and his outlook. It was rare to have a good passing attack after that and he loathed throwing over the middle.
Miles problem was 2008. He was already more conservative than optimal (see auburn game 2006) and failing to change with the times but the interceptions in 2008 changed him and his outlook. It was rare to have a good passing attack after that and he loathed throwing over the middle.
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