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re: They may be trying to get Kelly for cause
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:35 am to FistFest
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:35 am to FistFest
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He didn’t accept the $30M offer so now it’s time to go scorched earth.
I don't understand this line of thinking.
He and LSU made an agreement. LSU fired him prior to the contract expiration date, which means, as I understand it, that he is justified in requesting LSU honor all terms of the contract.
Why should he have to take less than the contracted values?
If there are clauses that stipulate lower payments for shitty performance, then I get it -- lower the payments, because he definitely performed at a shitty level.
However, I have neither seen, nor heard, of anything that indicates LSU is justified legally in reducing the buyout.
Not trying to be the contrarian, but legally, is there something there which gives LSU right to lower the payment -- other than, "You pissed off Tiger Nation."?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:25 am to Floating Change Up
There is a clause that allows LSU to offset from remaining balances other income he earns and also that he has to use all best efforts to secure other income.LSU is wanting to reduce the buy out, and pay it in a lump sum, and in exchange Kelly gets to keep all other income.
Thi latest position by LSU is not good in terms of hiring a decent replacement for Kelly. You either will have to severely overpay someone, or hire a person who otherwise appears not to be the type of candidate the job would normally attract.
Thi latest position by LSU is not good in terms of hiring a decent replacement for Kelly. You either will have to severely overpay someone, or hire a person who otherwise appears not to be the type of candidate the job would normally attract.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:42 am to pmacneworleans
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There is a clause that allows LSU to offset from remaining balances other income he earns and also that he has to use all best efforts to secure other income.LSU is wanting to reduce the buy out, and pay it in a lump sum, and in exchange Kelly gets to keep all other income.
And there is the rub many are seeming to miss. LSU has yet to not live up to their end of the buyout. They are working towards a settlement offer different from that prescribed in the contract.
If they were not paying him his monthly payout/salary, then he would have a point, but they are paying him. They have not breached the contract and would not do so unless they officially fire him and did not pay him his scheduled buyout payment.
The other side of the coin is that he must make good-faith attempts to secure employment to maintain eligibility for the buyout, but this does not have to happen immediately. It also has to pay him market value for the position. He can't use his LSU buyout to take, say $1 million a year at his new job and then let LSU pay him $8 million. This would constitute a breach of the contract terms.
If he wants to retire, he would either have to forfeit his buyout or reach a settlement with LSU to waive those parts of the agreement.
If LSU does plan to fire for cause or use that as leverage, it will depend on how things were officially played out. Woodward never had the capacity on his own to fire/terminate Kelly. The BOS has to do that, and if they did not have an official meeting, the firing would have to be on an official agenda.
There are a lot of semantics, but nowhere has LSU not paid their obligation to date on Kelly's buyout.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:07 am to Sev09
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If you read the article, LSUs stance is that they never formally fired him yet, and are now firing for cause.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:56 am to Harry Rex Vonner
It makes you wonder if LSU is trying to avoid paying the buyout because they just don’t have the money?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:57 am to jcole4lsu
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LSUs stance is fricking retarded. They fired him, now trying to back track so they can fire him with cause because he wouldn't take a reduced buyout. Everyone sees right through it.
Let’s review cause that Kelly didn’t inform LSU board of supervisors, and the AD about for 4 seasons
400 rounds of golf
Beach trips during recruiting season
Drinking wine at the office
Didn’t know several of the players names
Adultery
He kept losing 3 games in a row for 3 straight seasons during October so we have an obvious performance issue relative to the reason he was hired “ to compete for championships” which we are not doing
He didn’t hold up his end of the agreement
I have my lawyers play hardball with Kelly and his lawyers
I ask him privately if he wants to protect whatever name he has left for himself
Take a deal or it will come at huge price to his character in the public eye - we’re going to let sports world know we have plenty of cause far beyond wins and losses
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:06 am to RazorBroncs
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LSU's stance is that he wasn't formally fired because Woodward didn't have the authority, so isn't he technically still the coach?
How does that work?
And since he wasn't formally fired and LSU is now moving to fire him for cause, it requires a 7 day notice and an opportunity for BK to fight these allegations in writing. Therefore meaning BK is still the coach at LSU, since LSU informed him TODAY that they are moving to fire him for cause.
Not only a mess, but if BK wanted to be a huge dick he could technically be on the sidelines Saturday as the HC.
No, you're right. This is wild what they are trying to do.
I'm interested to see where this goes in the next week.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:19 am to uptowntiger84
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Hope it goes to court and LSU gets Kelly's wife, the realtor, and the female football staffer he was sleeping with all on the witness stand and let the story unfold for everyone to see. Do you think Kelly would slam his fist on the table like he did after
Which female football staffer?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:30 am to Sev09
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If you read the article
I guarantee you that nobody bashing or laughing at LSU in this thread or any other thread of the same kind has read the article nor do they have knowledge of what’s going on behind scenes. They see a headline and run like ignorant fools.
Read the article and go find the article published by The Athletic days after it was announced that they were working on a separation. All the information you need to know is right there.
This is nothing more than Kelly trying to get his money. LSU has more than enough evidence to support its stance.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:45 am to Circle K Beggar
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This tells me Landry is still involved. His state ranks either dead last or close to last in every meaningful category but LSU football is the axe he chooses to grind?
You need to go look at some of the updated stats. We're doing better than many realize.
To me, Woody fired BK and was fired before he could let that play out. So, now, LSU has had to go back and figure out why Woody fired him and you can't really ask the man. It's not like Woody left his binder of dirt behind when he bounced
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:15 am to Circle K Beggar
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You seem a little scared bro.
LSU fan, y’all.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:18 am to LSUinMA
LSU going full Michael Scott. I respect it.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:19 am to jcole4lsu
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We would have been required to notify for cause at time of firing. Can't do it after the fact.
Was he notified of firing or being relieved of duties. Not the same. If some stupid LA process law says you have to relieve someone of duties, wait, then fire it may not be after the fact.
Not saying there is cause there, but it’d be awesome if Kelly gets $0 after this.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:28 am to LSUfanaddict
Infidelity is a time honored tradition amongst CFB coaches....at LSU going back to Hallman, at least....before that, who knows.
Bryant had women all over. He once benched a certain QB because he found out he was sharing.
Bryant had women all over. He once benched a certain QB because he found out he was sharing.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:30 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Was he notified of firing or being relieved of duties. Not the same. If some stupid LA process law says you have to relieve someone of duties, wait, then fire it may not be after the fact.
If it matters, the way the news initially broke was that LSU notified Kelly of its intent to fire.
We’ve no way of knowing if or how that happened, but Kelly is still on payroll, unchanged from before all this happened.
And people need to take a breath. Parties negotiate settlements and damages all the time. LSU hasn’t breached anything, but trying to negotiate here is the prudent thing to try and do.
If Kelly rejects all offers he’ll get his money. It’ll be a cold day in hell before LSU lets this get ugly and I see no chance this goes to court and LSU attempts some smear campaign on Kelly as some fans have suggested.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:32 am to LSUinMA
Just when you thought this couldn’t become a bigger shite show. Yeesh.
And, yeah, Landry hasn’t involved any more. Suuuuuure.
And, yeah, Landry hasn’t involved any more. Suuuuuure.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:35 am to RazorBroncs
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Is he technically still the coach? Y'all seem to be focusing on the personal attacks to avoid the actual clusterfrick of a situation unfolding, which is understandable when you have no defense of it
Or
We couldn’t give 2 shits about your opinion
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:35 am to ApexTiger
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400 rounds of golf Beach trips during recruiting season Drinking wine at the office Didn’t know several of the players names Adultery
Yeah, if y’all didn’t fire Orgeron for cause over his issues then none of this will hold up.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:36 am to RazorBroncs
This shite will blow over. Look what Penn State went through. I bet you thought they would never recover.
Employees and Employers fighting over severance, back pay, contracts, buyouts, etc. happens all the time. Quit trying to act like other football programs will benefit from this. Arkansas athletics will never be seen at the level LSU athletics is, no matter how much you wish it.
Employees and Employers fighting over severance, back pay, contracts, buyouts, etc. happens all the time. Quit trying to act like other football programs will benefit from this. Arkansas athletics will never be seen at the level LSU athletics is, no matter how much you wish it.
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