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re: The Panthers beat writer perspective on Joe Brady
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:24 pm to nicholastiger
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:24 pm to nicholastiger
The contrast between Aranda and Brady in their approaches to their careers has been interesting.
Aranda strikes me as very patient and self-aware. He doesn't jump at the first opportunity to come along, but thinks hard about whether he's truly ready. He wants to be 100% ready before he goes to the next level, and not learning everything on the job.
Brady, as with many others, moved up as quickly as soon as the opportunities were made available. It's tempting, but not always the best path.
Aranda strikes me as very patient and self-aware. He doesn't jump at the first opportunity to come along, but thinks hard about whether he's truly ready. He wants to be 100% ready before he goes to the next level, and not learning everything on the job.
Brady, as with many others, moved up as quickly as soon as the opportunities were made available. It's tempting, but not always the best path.
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:32 pm to nicholastiger
Many coaches fail the first time at a big gig.
He probably wasn't ready for the job.
It also doesn't help that it appears his head coach also isn't ready for the job.
It also doesn't help that the organization has crap players outside of their RB, who now seems like injuries have caused his peak to already happen.
He probably wasn't ready for the job.
It also doesn't help that it appears his head coach also isn't ready for the job.
It also doesn't help that the organization has crap players outside of their RB, who now seems like injuries have caused his peak to already happen.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:33 pm to Fat Bastard
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shite forgot to add we even had choice routes for some of our receivers
All offenses have these. Option routes aren't nearly as exotic or out of the ordinary as people think. Option routes are literally the entire basis of the air raid, and the air raid is more or less the predecessor of most modern offenses.
Four verts--the most well known play on planet earth--is just four vertical routes with the WR adjusting based on leverage.
An offense without option routes would look like 2010-era LSU.
It's really not a feather in anyone's cap to run option routes. They are as ordinary as breathing air.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:35 pm to nicholastiger
First off, the guy doesn't seem like he really has a grasp on what he's talking about.
Secondly...
Maybe we didn't have a ton of pre-snap "eye candy" but our 2019 offense was built around RPO's/rub routes/double moves...why wasn't Brady utilizing this at Carolina?
Secondly...
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There's nothing complex about Brady's scheme. It's very basic, which is why he struggled to have positive results. In this league, you can't be predictable. You have to throw in a bunch of motions, double moves, RPO's, rub routes, and present the defense with some eye candy pre-snap.
Maybe we didn't have a ton of pre-snap "eye candy" but our 2019 offense was built around RPO's/rub routes/double moves...why wasn't Brady utilizing this at Carolina?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:35 pm to nicholastiger
A ton of words just to say “he was the scapegoat for an overrated and soon to be fired Rhule”.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:41 pm to GEAUX5
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so these pathetic threads can stop.
Why is this a pathetic thread.
You are a jackass for being so negative you don't even realize what the thread is about.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:42 pm to LifeAquatic
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LifeAquatic
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Four verts--the most well known play on planet earth--is just four vertical routes with the WR adjusting based on leverage.
with a RB running a hitch as a checkdown IF he is not needed for blitz pickup.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:44 pm to nicholastiger
Most boring thing I’ve ever read.
Writer sounds like a cuck.
Writer sounds like a cuck.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:44 pm to nicholastiger
This should prove to people that a lot of what happened in 2019 was Ensminger. Brady brought a bunch new stuff to the offense but E was the one that knew how to make it all work.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:46 pm to lsu777
I think one thing is certain, myself and others were completely wrong about the level of Ensmingers involvement. Brady def brought the new ideas, but E kept the flow of the game going in the booth
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:47 pm to nicholastiger
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I think he's a good football coach, I really do. He's a bright offensive mind but he's very young. Sometimes young coaches that are extremely smart, outsmart themselves. They play too much into the analytics, they're super conservative and run a vanilla offense. There's nothing complex about Brady's scheme. It's very basic, which is why he struggled to have positive results. In this league, you can't be predictable. You have to throw in a bunch of motions, double moves, RPO's, rub routes, and present the defense with some eye candy pre-snap. From what I can tell, 90% of the motions are just to expose if the defense is in man or zone coverage. There are very few motions into routes, blocks, or once again, eye candy. Getting the eyes of the defense to have their eyes in the wrong place could be the difference between a two-yard gain or a 20-yard gain.
So, Matt Canada will succeed in the NFL but not Joe Brady (at least until he gets older)?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:48 pm to nicholastiger
Not having their best player on offense was a problem for JB as it would have been for any OC.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:48 pm to lsupride87
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I think one thing is certain, myself and others were completely wrong about the level of Ensmingers involvement. Brady def brought the new ideas, but E kept the flow of the game going in the booth
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:50 pm to LSUTigerfaninHtown
quote:I wonder if the writer thinks the inability of the QB and WRs to pitch and catch, and the inability of the RB to run d/t injury had anything to do with those things?
The writer thinks he's a good football coach, but that his scheme is currently too basic to be successful in the NFL.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:52 pm to Silvermoon_WhereRU
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The writer would love Matt Canada
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:54 pm to macaoidh
We don’t need another learn on the job Coordinator. Now if he would take the passing game coordinator, I could deal with that.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:55 pm to lsupride87
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but E kept the flow of the game going in the booth
People keep giving E credit for something he hasn’t really shown he can do any other time.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:59 pm to Fat Bastard
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Fat Bastard
No, i didn't miss the point. Your point was that Joe Brady incorporates plenty of smart wrinkles into his offense, and you listed option routes as one of those wrinkles.
I was pointing out that option routes aren't really a wrinkle, nor do they prove anything. They are completely ubiquitous. They may have been considered modern 20 years ago; nowadays, if you do not run option routes, you can't even coach a HS offense.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:08 pm to nicholastiger
It’s really not hard to figure out, IMO.
You have no QB, your offense won’t be successful. Period.
You have no QB, your offense won’t be successful. Period.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:08 pm to LifeAquatic
"In his career" ? He was not a coach with the Saints, basically an analyst type position. He was co-OC at LSU for one year. He has had no "career' as such worth being evaluated on. Will be interesting to see where he goes / who takes a risk on him as OC.
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