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re: Stop with the Joe Brady stuff for OC

Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:00 pm to
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You guys are ridiculous. JOE BURROW was the reason for the offense. GTFO if you don’t agree with that.
burrow was a big reason but he improved tremendously from 2018 to 2019.
Brady deserves credit for that.

And I dont think rhule would be hired Brady if he wasn't good. I trust his opinion.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69647 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:03 pm to
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Kirby and several other defensive coaches said LSU wasn't doing anything "special" scheme wise, they just had elite talent.


Bull…there were several scoring plays that were elite and called at perfect times
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291631 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:03 pm to
Those numbers I cited are directly from PFF
Posted by Tshirts
Member since Oct 2021
198 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:09 pm to
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And Ensminger proved it was all him with his 15 prior years of bad offenses and the 1 following 2019


As soon as Miles was fired and ensminger took over as coordinated, our average points per game doubled and we started setting school records. Even last season, offense was not the problem. Our offense was pretty good. With mostly the same players that we have now, he had three first time starting quarterbacks, two of which were a true freshman, that Each had 40+ point games and one of them had 50+ point game. I’d say that is better than decent. Our defense was terrible.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73106 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:11 pm to
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Those numbers I cited are directly from PFF


No doubt.

And I pointed out that your numbers include "garbage time" and posted the numbers outside of "garbage time."

Try to keep up, LE.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4342 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:16 pm to
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And Ensminger proved it was all him with his 15 prior years of bad offenses and the 1 following 2019


To what 15 years are you referring. He wasn’t at LSU in any capacity 15 years ago and wasn’t our OC until 2018.

In the latter third of that year, Joe Burrow began to put up Joe Burrow numbers, this without being coached up by Brady.

Moreover, the 2019 offense wasn’t bad.

I’m not saying Brady is a bad coach, but maybe he isn’t the end all everyone thought he was and maybe Steve deserves more credit than he is given.
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79834 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Those numbers are including quarterback knees and LSU pounding the ball late in blowouts which almost exclusively came from single back and I formation sets.

The percentages outside of "garbage time" are somewhere between 75% and 80%, depending on which stat service you believe.


You’re arguing that 50% of our under center plays we’re QB knees.

You’re arguing that the different between 33% and like 15% is QB Kneels

And I’ll admit we definitely went o more shotgun later in the season, so the % early in the season was likely higher than 33%

This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291631 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:30 pm to
From 2018 to 2019


-RPO doubled from 11% to 22%

- shotgun from 67% to 96%

- FB from 22% to .6% of plays

- 6+ man protections over 300 plays to 89 in 2019


These aren’t small tweaks or players just “maturing”
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:31 pm to
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Lane Kiffin got absolutely humiliated by the NFL


He did take over for Art Shell and the team was terrible, but point taken.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81668 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:55 pm to
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To what 15 years are you referring. He wasn’t at LSU in any capacity 15 years ago and wasn’t our OC until 2018


For it his Ensminger's prior career to which I refer. Hereto, he wasn't secretly behind 2019.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81668 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
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and we started setting school records.


DP controls your mind to this day. Yikes.
Posted by DONHOGG
NE Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
1981 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:58 pm to
Hire Joe Brady!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79834 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:58 pm to
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They aren't made up.

Pay for a PFF subscription and see for yourself



You have a statistic that 15% of our plus were garbage time runs/QB knees? Statistically that’s what you’re arguing.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4342 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:03 pm to
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For it his Ensminger's prior career to which I refer. Hereto, he wasn't secretly behind 2019.




Outside of 2019, Brady hasn’t been spectacular either.

Ever consider that Burrow was the reason for the season?

Brady was fired because of the product he put on the field. Regardless of injuries, great coordinators have the ability to adjust their play calling and scheme to their strengths.

Again I’m not saying Brady is a bad a coordinator, but he may not be the star a lot of us thought he was. Likewise, Enzminger probably deserves more credit than you are willing to give him.

Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:18 pm to
The coach being disrespected is Coach E.

That being said it was the players that made 2019 special
Posted by SupermanSlim
Member since Jan 2018
885 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:19 pm to
Y’all MFers ain’t satisfied with anything!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79834 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:20 pm to
Did you watch the games? We’re Alabama and Arkansas not at the end of the year? He threw 1 TD against the 86th scoring defense in the country and 0 against Alabama in November.

What’s more likely: Joe made an enormous jump in ability OR UCF was a G5 team full of future high school coaches and insurance salesmen and we threw bombs to A future pro bowler all game?

Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5072 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:21 pm to
God you people are dumb.

Yes, we do want Brady back. He knows how to use talent. Saban couldn’t figure out his playcalling. Put many touchdowns on the Gumps.

Want.
Posted by Tshirts
Member since Oct 2021
198 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:42 pm to
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[and we started setting school records.]


DP controls your mind to this day. Yikes.
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“When Ensminger took over play-calling duties in 2016 for the Tigers, LSU’s offense had been stagnant, scoring only nine touchdowns and averaging 18 points and 339.5 total yards per game through four games. In eight games under Ensminger that year, LSU improved drastically in every offensive category as the Tigers averaged 32 points and 464.9 total yards per contest during that span. LSU scored 38 or more points five times under Ensminger, including 54 in a win over Texas A&M and 38 against both Arkansas and Ole Miss. The Tigers averaged 7.1 yards per play and converted 46-of-102 third-down opportunities during that eight-game stretch.

Also under Ensminger, LSU’s 2016 offense set then school records for yards in a SEC game (634 vs. Missouri), single-game rushing yards by an individual (284 by Leonard Fournette vs. Ole Miss, 285 by Derrius Guice vs. Texas A&M), longest run from scrimmage (96 yards by Derrius Guice vs. Arkansas) and time of possession (42:33 vs. Missouri)”.[quote]
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50015 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:00 pm to
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Lane Kiffin got absolutely humiliated by the NFL and I'd take him as our OC in a heartbeat.


Lane has forgotten more about offense than Brady knows.
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