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re: Steven Godfrey on LSU search

Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:36 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465820 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:36 am to
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Coach will be extremely expensive and reset the market

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Cristobal, possible


Who will be the Jim Jones for our fanbase if fricking Cristobal becomes the coach that resets the market?
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
976 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:54 am to
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I know one thing: you don’t know shite

It is NOT Tucker. Period.


Figure if I keep saying it I'll be wrong and it won't happen. Go Tucker!
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48801 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:56 am to
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He was one of the first to have Coach O being fired.



I have no clue who this guy is but I bet there are better sources on this board than he is and that isn't saying much.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9759 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:58 am to
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And who is Steven Godfrey and how would he be in the know?


A well known and well respected sports journalist. Graduated from Ole Miss, from the state of Georgia and has many SEC connections.

I'm not a huge fan of his, but he's a pretty well known guy.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
6040 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 7:59 am to
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He was one of the first to have Coach O being fired.


Pretty sure I was ahead of him on this.
Posted by LeMarteau
Hoover, AL (B.R. native)
Member since Mar 2008
2256 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:04 am to
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it’ll be a cheap hire


It definitely will NOT be a bargain basement hire. SW better be swinging for a deep homer.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
4962 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:15 am to
If im woody, im offering 15m to Riley, OU will have to dig deep.

Riley is worth the extra money b/c hes young, runs a top program, risk of going anywhere else from LSU is slim. I dont think he wants to go pro.


Problem is if it becomes public, you could be over paying for others if he declines..
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33043 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:21 am to
Coaching carousel is his specialty. Dude used to go to all the big coaching conventions, his insight is very entertaining.
Posted by Afrojedi
Member since Jul 2017
600 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:29 am to
Yeah, Godfrey is an a-hole but not one to just throw stuff out there. If he's putting his name on something then it is legit information that hes gotten from somebody. Whether it comes to fruition or not is another thing.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17348 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:29 am to
Approx 52:15 mark talking about Lincoln Riley:

"That's what Scott Woodward does. That's why he is a gangster. He is gonna steal your wife."
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46297 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:35 am to
Can't wait for the "boom"
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88973 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:40 am to
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Who will be the Jim Jones for our fanbase if fricking Cristobal becomes the coach that resets the market?




Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46297 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:44 am to
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If im woody, im offering 15m to Riley, OU will have to dig deep


Money won't be the reason he'd come to LSU. Part of it, sure.

OU would match $$ but can't match other things LSU offers over OU.

* Already in SEC
* Fertile La recruiting area
* Better Program this Century
Posted by Ocardowin
Member since Dec 2011
1345 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:48 am to
I think people overestimate the willingness of another school to match what amounts to a shocking number.

Like, $15m is insane. It's $3m more than the GOAT coach (Belichick) makes, and $6m more than the GOAT college coach.

By way of thought experiment, lets say LSU went absolutely insane and Jeff Bezos decided to fund a new coach for LSU and we offered Riley a 10 year $300m contract. OU could technically match that. There's 0 chance they would.

Now obviously that would never happen, but there's a line there somewhere of what OU can match, but wouldn't. Would they match $10m? Certainly. $12m? Probably. $15m, fully guaranteed, 10 years? I think that's by no means a sure thing.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 8:48 am
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
7940 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:51 am to
It's the difference between being a winner or being a loser.

When was the last time OU won a NC. 1999 or 2000?
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
976 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:16 am to
Setting a new standard for coaching salaries when they're already in the stratosphere will not have good optics and I don't think necessary to get the right coach. Eliminating or minimizing buyouts is another way it can go without resetting the salary market. Who knows but resetting the salary market seems unsustainable
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14535 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:23 am to
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Ed said he’d kill him when he was a student reporter at Ole Miss.



Posted by Ocardowin
Member since Dec 2011
1345 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:25 am to
I disagree. What's resetting the market is the SEC TV rights renegotiation and the upcoming playoff expansion.

I've said it before, but giving 1/3 of the $20m increased revenue from the TV rights renegotiation (on top of what we're already able and willing to pay someone like Coach O) gets you to around $15m.

Giving such a contract now is getting ahead of the market.

In 2010, Nick Saban was the highest paid FBS coach at $6m. He now makes about $10m.

Using that same "$4m increase in 10 years", guess where that puts the market in 10 years if everything stayed exactly the same?

But everything isn't staying the same. With all the shakeups to CFB right now, including the rights renegotiation, conference realignment, and playoff expansion, I think that this growth is about to rapidly accelerate. By 2025, I would bet good money there are at least 5 p5 head coaches north of $12m/year.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 9:26 am
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:25 am to
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Setting a new standard for coaching salaries when they're already in the stratosphere will not have good optics and I don't think necessary to get the right coach. Eliminating or minimizing buyouts is another way it can go without resetting the salary market. Who knows but resetting the salary market seems unsustainable



Did you forget the insane TV contract the SEC is going to have in a few years?

You have to get ahead of the curve.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14865 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:32 am to
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Aint Jimbo. What do I have to impart upon this board? I know for a fact he is not changing his coaching locatio


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