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LSU Top 5 Job in CFB? If so, why have 2 of last 3 coaches been guys noone else would touch

Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
3107 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:48 pm
. . .with a 10-foot pole?!?!

Miles and Orgeron were both hired when there wasn't really anyone else banging down their door asking them to be their head coach. Post-LSU, we've already seen what a dumpster fire Miles' career has been and pretty sure Ed O's career is going to be in a downward spiral from here on out too (if he even decides to be a head coach again since he has enough money to by a few hamburgers). Both won national championships because of the talent pool and assistant coaches....but if LSU is such a top job in CFB, why has it been so hard to attract TOP coaching talent? Heck...even Saban was considered by some to be a mediocre coach who hadn't done much at Michigan St before we hired him.

Scotty W better be crootin some elite names.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56705 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:49 pm to
Timing and incompetent leadership.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72195 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:49 pm to
Joe Alleva

Also, 2019 helps the prestige of the job
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
3532 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:50 pm to
Don't believe anything posted on this website
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5086 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:51 pm to
Incompetent leadership and the governor’s meddling and manipulation are two big factors at LSU

Same problems that LSU has had for a century.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 7:52 pm
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
9292 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:57 pm to
Ummm Miles was definitely a known commodity not only when we hired him, but even afterwards when Michigan came calling.
Posted by GSP
Member since Oct 2021
347 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:00 pm to
It isn't a top 5 job.

Albama, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State, Southern Cal, Texas, Oklahoma etc.

If LSU is top 5 then that means there are a max of 4 ahead of you.

Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame are locks.

Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Penn State, USC are as good or better.

Top 10 ? maybe

Top 15? for sure

But top 5? I don't think so.

Not trolling, but you don't see 5 schools on that list that are nationally more desirable?
Posted by TigerDawg1212
Member since Sep 2021
533 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:02 pm to
O sucked and you can definitely blame that on Alleva, but Miles is pretty criminally underrated nowadays. The game passed him by and he's a terrible person, but he was a really good coach until ~2013ish. Miles and Chavis wrote the book on how to stop the spread when run by good teams. Even before LSU while it was arguably not deserved, he won the Big 12 coach of the year award.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:02 pm to
Everybody on ESPN football analysts said it was a top 5 job. Take it up with them
Posted by JTA1985
Member since Feb 2012
3937 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:02 pm to
Moron
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13260 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Ummm Miles was definitely a known commodity not only when we hired him


Yeah when Oklahoma State played the Eli Ole Miss team in the Cotton Bowl, that was Oklahoma State’s best team since the 80s. He did a good job there.

Miles was not a bad coach pre RPO/targeting. He just failed to adapt.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
11934 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

It isn't a top 5 job.

Albama, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State, Southern Cal, Texas, Oklahoma etc.

If LSU is top 5 then that means there are a max of 4 ahead of you.

Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame are locks.

Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Penn State, USC are as good or better.

Top 10 ? maybe

Top 15? for sure

But top 5? I don't think so.

Not trolling, but you don't see 5 schools on that list that are nationally more desirable?
No you are Trolling, Funny How LSU had to find Bama Saban after they fricked up with Mike Price and David Shula...Oh and LSU is far ahead of Flordia, UGA or ND.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9424 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Penn State, USC


What year is it? 1970?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
109889 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Bama, Ohio State, Notre Dame are locks.

Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Penn State, USC are as good or better.

This isn't the 80s or 90s.
Posted by GSP
Member since Oct 2021
347 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

No you are Trolling, Funny How LSU had to find Bama Saban after they fricked up with Mike Price and David Shula...Oh and LSU is far ahead of Flordia, UGA or ND.


That absolutely is not a troll.

Do you honestly think that there aren't 5 teams on that list more desirable nationally?

Bama, OSU and ND are without a doubt.

Texas, Oklahoma, USC are for the vast majority of the country.

Michigan, Florida, Georgia are on par with LSU.

I would imagine there are some jobs like Oregon that are more desirable than you realize due to facilities.

Not being in the top 5 isn't an insult, the top 5 are college football royalty.

All kidding aside, I've never seen such a sensitive fan base.

I'm bama but if someone listed ND ahead of bama I could see it, ND is the holy grail for a lot of coaches.

Same goes with Ohio State, they are basically the bama of the north.

you people are killing me, yeesh
Posted by tigerfan92
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
544 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:15 pm to
Why does it matter they both won National Championships. Stop whining and enjoy it.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:16 pm to
Miles was a major candidate when we hired him. P5 to P5 is extremely rare, and two of our last three were that.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3175 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:17 pm to
Miles was willing to pay his own buyout and wanted to come to LSU. LSU was not willing to wait for Jack del Rio. Skip talked about this in an interview a few years ago.

Ogeron took the job for 3 million when the state was broke.

This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:18 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23295 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:17 pm to
Bro you know how I know LSU is a top 5 job. Your bitch arse is on an LSU coaching changes board positing your thoughts on the job on a random Wednesday.

Get wrecked.
Posted by GSP
Member since Oct 2021
347 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:19 pm to
Is the original poster trolling?

He asks a legit question.

If LSU is a top 5 job then why have they had to settle for orgeron and miles, people that nobody else would even want or touch.

Geesh. He was being more brutally honest than me.

I guess it's just the source that's the issue.
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