re: LSU did not give Payton a courtesy call to request an interview with Nielsen

OK Payton gets his panties in a wad but have to look at the bigger picture

These are grown men doing business. There’s a lot at stake here. No one is going to make a decision based on one phone call. Forget O and SP. The Nielsen - Peyton relationship was the key here.

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So this is one of those “unwritten rules”

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no it's being smart and respectful

O already made SP not like him after O was somewhat dishonorable at the end of his time with the Saints. since SP has a lot of say in this situation, you make sure you kiss the ring or else...you lose your #1 DC candidate you waited a month for

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O already made SP not like him after O was somewhat dishonorable at the end of his time with the Saints. since SP has a lot of say in this situation, you make sure you kiss the ring or else...you lose your #1 DC candidate you waited a month for

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Lol at anyone thinking this phone call would of got us Nielsen especially with Payton knowing he was losing Campbell, Glenn, and maybe Allen to

Also screw Payton's overrated arse. Dude thinks he's Belichick or Saban but he's closer to the Les Miles of the NFL

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Dude thinks he's Belichick or Saban

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he's clearly better than Saban

if you compare coaches during his tenure in the NFL you could make an argument he's #2 behind Bill B. with Reid winning last year it's probably 1. Bellichek 2. Reid 3. Payton

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but he's closer to the Les Miles of the NFL

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that's nonsense

But my question is did they contact Orgeron or the AD? My guess would be they talked to the athletic department.

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he's clearly better than Saban

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Sean Payton is nowhere near Saban. If Brees goes to Miami Saban has more than 1 Superbowl

Also Pete Carroll puts Payton to shame

Payton is closer to Mike McCarthy than any of those elite guys

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He said she said.

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Exactly. Each of these situations is he said, she said, and not one person on this board knows the particulars of what happened in these interviews. They just espouse their preferred side of the argument. I’d be willing to bet that no one is happy about the way the DC search has unfolded thus far. All we can do now is wait and see who candidate #4 is. Pretty serious hire for Orgeron’s longevity.

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First off, im not sure ive even seen it verified that lsu asked permission to speak to him.
Secondly, the coaching profession is a brotherhood. And payton is known to by petty, its part of what makes him great. So, if you want to pull a coach from him, its a good idea to be as cordial as you can. Doesnt sound like lsu was

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This is as stupid as hell. Given what we know now no pbone call was changing the outcome. So this proposes that if CEO had called ahead of time the Peyton would have let him go...

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i mean if this cost us our guy....yeah?

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This is just posturing after the fact. If our athletic dept contacted the Saints FO, that’s all that had to happen.

The reason the Saints wouldn’t play ball on a release or buyout is a lot clearer today than it was on Monday- they lost a defensive staff member to Detroit and now Allen is interviewing for a HC position. Those stories hit yesterday, but the Saints staff and FO surely knew on Monday. Losing another guy who they may be willing to promote to DC if Allen leaves would have been a big blow.

I think there’s a 99.9% chance this outweighed the lack of a courtesy call. Even if O had called Payton, they weren’t going to give Nielsen an easy way out of the deal.