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re: Letter from Alleva on coaching search

Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:01 am to
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
4071 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:01 am to
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Half the sentences start with "he," you know what else starts with it? Herman.


And he posted this the morning after Herman's big win last night. Maybe he got a verbal agreement first thing this morning, then posted the letter.
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1960 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:02 am to
I pray I am wrong on this. I do not want Orgeron as head coach. I feel it would be disastrous or at the very least a HUGE risk. With that being said, how many of you actually have faith in Alleva thus far? If he does make a good hire, Ill be the first to eat my words!
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:02 am to
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Maybe he got a verbal agreement first thing this morning, then posted the letter.


Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
33833 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:04 am to
I think jimbaw checks off that entire criteria, Joe
Posted by WONTONGO
Member since Oct 2007
4395 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:06 am to
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I think jimbaw checks off that entire criteria, Joe


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and to hold them accountable to certain standards of behavior both on and off the field.


Not so fast my friend... but Herman does.
Posted by Taylor62085
Member since Nov 2015
53 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:07 am to
Think this was just to give the media something to talk about other than the LSU/Florida re-scheduling fiasco.
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:08 am to
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culture of excellence and character in every facet of our football program in order to compete at a championship level every year.


O won't compete at a ship level every year. He's a 9-3 or 10-2 coach at best.
Posted by LSUChamps03
S. Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
3315 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:08 am to
Maybe it's my lack of faith, but it seems he's softening the blow... Unfortunately, I think a relatively small, yet more vocal portion of the fanbase has given him the "out" of saying "it's what the fans wanted" if an O hire doesn't go well.

Conspicuously missing from his letter was the reference to successful coach in building/running a major college program, which I seem to recall seeing in his statements just following Miles firing. There was no reason to put out this "updated" list of qualifications when he's already put one out, other than things have changed.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:08 am to
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Maybe, but here's where you run into a brick wall on that. Bebe doesn't have ANY accomplishments to his name.



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Finally, he must be an accomplished leader of the young men who will rely on him for strength and guidance and from whom they will learn valuable lessons that will have a lasting impact on their lives.



Disagree, That is exactly what O proved to be able to do at USC. "Three players on the team literally likened the move to the death of a father." Sounds like a lasting impact on player's lives when they compare his leaving to losing a family member.

I also think that since Alleva didn't mention a successful head coaching stint also favors coach O. I thought that was one of the requirements in his first statement.

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USC's hiring of Washington's Steve Sarkisian as its new head football coach seems to have had the exact opposite effect of the effect hirings are supposed to have.

To be fair, the glum mood seems not to come from any pre-existing feelings about Sarkisian, but rather the resignation of Ed Orgeron, the wildly popular interim coach



quote:

How hard will Sark's job be? Players openly crying after Orgeron's departure. #USC
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#USC players were instructed to not comment on coaching situation. Some left meeting with visible tear marks
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It got worse when the players got to Twitter:
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Three players on the team literally likened the move to the death of a father. Let that settle in. Three players on the team literally likened the move to the death of a father.

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@_mcmxcv__ Feel like I lost my dad again........
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@_mcmxcv__ If you think Coach O was just a football coach then your missing 99% of what he was to us!!
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@somavainuku Coach O was more then a coach, he was a father to us, and treated us like we were his own sons... Nothing but good things coming his way!
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Note: this is not including the semi-breakdown suffered by an LA Daily News reporter
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As he was leaving Dan Weber asked Pat Haden "How's it going" and he responded, "I've had better days." #USC

THAT'S THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. THAT'S THE GUY WHO MADE THE HIRE.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/12/3/5168222/steve-sarkisian-usc-coaching-search-ed-orgeron-reaction

Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:08 am to
COACH O BABY
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:09 am to
Alleva moving the goalposts?
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10082 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:11 am to
Consistent with "Coach O is favorite" to land the job.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15997 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:12 am to
Alleva has learned from Les! How to communicate while not communicating.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27876 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:14 am to
Hillary Clinton offered more substance at her campaign speeches than Alleva just did.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72196 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Unfortunately to me, sounds like he's describing yawyaw.



eh

just sounded like generic shite to me
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4611 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:17 am to
He has someone locked up. Otherwise he won't send the letter out
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:17 am to
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Disagree, That is exactly what O proved to be able to do at USC. "Three players on the team literally likened the move to the death of a father." Sounds like a lasting impact on player's lives when they compare his leaving to losing a family member.


And this is what I fear is driving the bus now. Emotion. Making a huge decision that will affect the program for years on emotion. SMH.

Hire the most qualified candidate! Shut the good ole boy network down. Turn your back on the Archer/Hallman era. Keep moving forward.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to
To be honest that could describe a bunch of coaches. But I wouldn't be surprised if he did have someone locked up behind the scenes. The timing is interesting....just before the game that was rescheduled.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10082 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:23 am to
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O won't compete at a ship level every year. He's a 9-3 or 10-2 coach at best

o be fair it remains to be seen but Fisher has already shown he is this kind of coach except for one year.
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