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re: Is Arkansas and Pittman playing coy?

Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by VagueMessage
Springdale, AR
Member since Jun 2013
4437 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:01 pm to
We're exactly where we were at the end of Bert: 4 wins coming off 7 wins, coming off 9 (8) wins. With close losses aplenty and losses to G5 schools. I think Bert was 0–10 in his first ten one-possession games at Arkansas. Bielema was known for fundamental, penaltyless football with strong lines at Wisconsin. Pittman is known exclusively and solely for offensive line. None of their strengths manifested as HC at Arkansas.

Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:26 pm to
I think Arkansas needs to stick with mens basketball and baseball and call it a day.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3485 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:19 am to
The ONLY reason I could see him take a reduced negotiated retirement is if he really wants to retire. The way his contract is written is that he must seek and accept employment. Now, if he really does want to hang it up then negotiating a smaller amount may be beneficial to him. And with his demeanor with the last half of the season it may be a possibility.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45408 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:27 am to
quote:

The way his contract is written is that he must seek and accept employment.


Are you sure about that? I thought his contract contain poor performance clause and non compete clauses instead.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
9062 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:36 am to
Could they be waiting for Odom to finish the season at UNLV?
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27909 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:22 am to
Bert did for a short time at Arkansas.

Denver Kirkland
Dan Skipper
Sebastian Tretola
Frank Ragnow
Hjalte Froholdt
Hunter Henry

Four of them are either starters or on NFL teams.

What hurt Bert is when Sam left, Bert made a bad hire with some losses on the OL and that level of production wasn't replaced.

Pittman would be fine here had he just been an OL coach but that isn't his duties now. His inexperience made him a bad hire in Kennedy. Big difference in being a position coach and making a decision as a head coach that you believe is a good OL coach. Sam has no prior experience in coaching hires.

Arkansas didn't have a good OL under Briles and the only player that was any good was Ricky Stromberg. Briles and his offense was able to exploit the strength of the OL while minimizing the weaknesses.

It helps that K.J has legs or that OL would look even worse.

Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:43 am to
quote:

He pulls off the upset and gets carried off the field and into retirement.
with a crane?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50010 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:16 pm to
Most like the reason you haven’t heard anything is they have already decided to fire him and they have a agreement behind the scenes with Gus Mahlzahn
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27909 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:52 pm to
Arkansas is likely keeping Pittman than ever hiring Malzahn.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21407 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:11 pm to
I have a feeling you're correct.

The program is really pathetic.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27909 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:23 pm to
Malzahn has no interest with Arkansas and wants nothing more than see them punished for rejecting him when he was interviewed a few times.

He should be thanking Arkansas for getting him a very easy path from high school to the SEC when it would take decades or never with most coaches.

Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3642 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Could they be waiting for Odom to finish the season at UNLV?


That is exactly what they're doing.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
5478 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:21 am to
Both the transfer portal and early signing period being in December can affect the timing of coaches being let go. That’s the reason why Jimbo Fisher and Zac Arnett were let go before the end of the season. Hire a new coach in time to do some damage control in recruiting and transfers. Otherwise schools will use a “dead man walking” coach as a tool for negative recruiting to flip recruits and transfers.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3485 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:52 am to
If Pittman is out at the end of the year then Hunter should be out interviewing and talking to potential candidates already. In fact, doing it this way may allow him to feel out potential coaches without as much scrutiny.

Thing about the portal and recruits is that we and other new coaches can’t start until the end of the football season anyway. As such, they can’t contact recruits or portal players at this time anyway.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21407 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:06 am to
He should have been fired after the Mississippi St loss. You're right, Hunter better be talking to people right now.
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
868 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:50 am to
Do they even teach english and grammar in Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana?
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3485 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:39 am to
My bad. I went back and edited the post to add “and Pittman” without changing to “Are” as well. But, honestly, if that is all you care to add then you can frick right off.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22060 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:25 am to
I think he retires and Arkansas let's him go out on his own terms that way. He's a great guy and has a ton of respect in college football.

Love me some Pit Boss. Hope he becomes a commentator/color guy on TV.
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1730 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Malzahn has no interest with Arkansas and wants nothing more than see them punished for rejecting him when he was interviewed a few times.

Sexton used Arkansas interest in Malzahn in 2017 for leverage to win Gus a generously insane new contract with an equally insane buyout, which he is in process of being paid. So no what you said could not possibly be correct.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27909 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 4:24 pm to
He was never coming here and never will.

Yes he used Arkansas and Auburn to get more money but he remembers the rejection and thus wanted payback. He faked his interest with Arkansas and used Auburn to get his way.

He did because he is an egomaniac.


This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 5:24 pm
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