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re: I'm a Cajuns fan - Aranda is the better choice over Napier
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:50 pm to ghost2most
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:50 pm to ghost2most
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I understand the snaps were an issue. He could have literally taken a shotgun snap and pooch punted and it would have been better. Or fricking even going for it was smarter. He gave up two points to push them back 20 yards.
Neither of those are better options. If the safety kick was better there’s no discussion of the decision.
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:56 pm to ghost2most
Solid take. I will add that Aranda would shore up the defensive side pretty well and it seems easier to find good offensive coordinators than good defensive coordinators in this moden era. Just off the top of my head, i think he could get Grimes to come along, or steal Briles from Arky, or Tom herman would all be good.
Aranda is my pick unless we can get a long shot homerun like Urban or Riley
Aranda is my pick unless we can get a long shot homerun like Urban or Riley
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:57 pm to ghost2most
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He is not the in your face rah rah guy. Good. Those guys are usually idiots.
Question: If LSU recruits itself (it does), then why do you need some dipshit salesman like O?
I agree so much with this. Those cheese dick rah rah guys are only going to alienate a portion of the recruiting base. You are already behind the eight ball by being a douche canoe. Just be a coach and sell your vision for a program that already is looked at as a prime destination.
All that Dabo/O/Fleck gay shite is for the birds.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 7:32 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:59 pm to rmnldr
I disagree completely. If you’re that’s scared of the snap just go for it. You gained 25 yards and lost two points
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:00 pm to ghost2most
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'm also not really impressed with his offense. I really don't know what our identity is. I don't see anything super innovative though.
Kind of my issue with Napier. Not a ton of success on that side of the ball for someone that is supposed to be some really good offensive mind. Not terrible or anything, just don't see anything really innovative there.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:07 pm to ghost2most
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I disagree completely. If you’re that’s scared of the snap just go for it. You gained 25 yards and lost two points
Taking the safety guarantees no turnovers. I understand what you mean. Agree to disagree.
ETA:
The 3&2 call seems boneheaded in retrospect but the App State defense brought everyone for a run blitz to stop a run. The PA roll out into the flat should’ve been there but a smart play by an App State defender covered the receiver. He peeled off from the blitz and covered him and stopped what would’ve been a game ending first down.
So on 4&2 you can go for it and not get it, and give them the ball with 1:51 or so on the clock at the 37 yard line to score a touchdown to win (which judging by how they moved the ball they would’ve scored a touchdown easily) or put them at the 45 yard line with 1:41 to go. If it wasn’t for the PI call in the end zone App State would’ve never had the field position to even attempt the field goal.
And let’s not even get into this all too much because is this really the only boneheaded coaching that we can come up with?
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:14 pm to BilJ
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. Not a ton of success on that side of the ball for someone that is supposed to be some really good offensive mind.
I've always heard he is an average OC, poor gameday coach, but elite recruiter and great program builder.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:39 pm to ghost2most
If a 4th snap goes over the head and defense recovers it’s a TD or turnover with extremely short field. If ULL loses that way, we are criticizing him for losing a game for not making an adjustment for a crappy long snapper play. He made a decision to protect against that.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:45 pm to ghost2most
The binder will resolve all of Nap's weaknesses
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:48 pm to footwedge
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If a 4th snap goes over the head and defense recovers it’s a TD or turnover with extremely short field. If ULL loses that way, we are criticizing him for losing a game for not making an adjustment for a crappy long snapper play. He made a decision to protect against that.
Ding ding ding
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:03 pm to CatfishJohn
Just for fun Baylor and ULL faced 2 common opponents this season.
1st game of the season:
Baylor 29-20 over Texas St
ULL 38-18 loss to Texas
Oct 30:
Baylor 31-24 over Texas
ULL 45-0 over Texas St
1st game of the season:
Baylor 29-20 over Texas St
ULL 38-18 loss to Texas
Oct 30:
Baylor 31-24 over Texas
ULL 45-0 over Texas St
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:23 pm to footwedge
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If a 4th snap goes over the head and defense recovers it’s a TD or turnover with extremely short field. If ULL loses that way, we are criticizing him for losing a game for not making an adjustment for a crappy long snapper play. He made a decision to protect against that.
Why not have the QB boot the ball as far as he can out the shotgun then, and save the 2-points which would have forced Appy State to play for a touchdown? As mentioned, they ended up giving Appy State great field-position anyway. Surely your QB can kick the ball ~20+ yards with probably no one back there to even field a return.
The decision was universally stupid. It doesn't even make progressional sense: if his thought process was that they'd ultimately concede a safety, why would you pass on 3rd down instead of at least forcing Appy State to burn their final timeout by running the ball? They ultimately gave Appy State 2-points (now a FG ties), handed them a free timeout, and ultimately barely even moved the needle in the whole thing from a field-position standpoint.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:29 pm to CatfishJohn
Well so are a lot of guys. I’m just not sure Napier has an argument over Aranda if that’s the case. Saban knock off process aside
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:34 pm to ghost2most
Great post ULL. Thanks for sharing this info. GEAUX CAJUNS. 
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:37 pm to metafour
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Why not have the QB boot the ball as far as he can out the shotgun then
“Levi, do you think you can punt it?”
“I’m not sure coach”
That’s even if that took place.
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why would you pass on 3rd down instead of at least forcing Appy State to burn their final timeout by running the ball?
It was ballsy and it didn’t work. App State crashed everyone inside to stop a run and it was an amazing play to cover the flat. If they convert that 3rd down, there’s no discussion about any of this
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:53 pm to rmnldr
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It was ballsy and it didn’t work. App State crashed everyone inside to stop a run and it was an amazing play to cover the flat. If they convert that 3rd down, there’s no discussion about any of this
But that's the entire point: who the hell plays "ballsy" on 3rd down, and then plays like a complete pansy the very next down by literally handing the other team free uncontested points? Those are completely contradictory moves. In a given drive of 4-downs, you are either playing conservative, or you are playing aggressive. What you DON'T do is flip-flop between them.
As mentioned, after they handed Appy State 2-points they ended up handing them the ball on Appy State's 45 yard line, so the whole exercise didn't even conclude with them pinning Appy State back or anything. Now they're down 3 and with a timeout to burn on their own 45 yard line.
The whole situation worked out really poorly for Napier. And again, if you're ballsy enough to throw on 3rd and 2, surely you're ballsy enough to expect that your QB can kick the ball past the line of scrimmage for at least SOME yardage on 4th down. Preserve the 5-point lead and force the other team to score a TD.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:10 pm to ghost2most
I mean Saban was a pretty mediocre gameday coach for most of his career, every coach has weaknesses. I'm least concerned about that aspect personally. I want a coach that can out recruit Saban for LA guys and have the team flying to the ball and executing on an elite level whatever scheme he is running and not quitting when things get tough. Whoever can do that better is who I want.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:23 pm to metafour
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But that's the entire point: who the hell plays "ballsy" on 3rd down, and then plays like a complete pansy the very next down by literally handing the other team free uncontested points?
I’m not Napier so I can’t tell you what went through his head.
Also it’s very ballsy to take a safety and play defense. That’s not being a pansy. Dude sacrificed points to try to push App State back because he had faith in his defense
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:53 pm to Srobi14
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I want a coach that can out recruit Saban for LA guys
No one is choosing Napier over Saban.
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