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By the way, here is what AI says:
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Yes, the school legally and operationally retains all recruiting boards, evaluation databases, and compiled transfer portal data because these digital assets belong to the university, not the individual coaches.
Ownership of Data
• Institutional Property: Databases, CRM software (like Recruiting-Edge or HUDL/Accelerant), and evaluation notes are paid for and owned by the university's athletic department.
• Contractual Terms: Standard coaching contracts stipulate that all work product, records, and recruit evaluations compiled during employment remain university property upon termination.
• Server Access: Fired coaches and staff lose network access immediately, but data stored on cloud platforms or shared institutional drives stays behind for the administration and incoming staff.
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re: What I believe and what I know
Posted by metafour on 10/5/26 at 5:01 pm to MrAUTigers
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The data HE compiled was his. The data he compiled with others was Auburn's. smuph didn't say he took all of the data..........just his.
Why would he have personal data that wasn't already logged into whatever electronic systems Auburn provided him to conduct his work? The nature of his work would require a live database that lots of other people would need immediate access to. Its not like he's writing it all out by hand into a notebook and then "logging" it all into the system/database at year-end, in which case you could argue that he got fired before he "submitted" his work and therefore it was all lost.
If he had any such data that wasn't recorded yet, it likely would have been just small brain-storming stuff that wasn't ready to officially log yet. The idea that his entire transfer portal board somehow wasn't logged into Auburn's systems is nonsensical, and no AD would allow him to work that way.
The more likely scenario here is that Golesh and his operations staff had access to the data, but he isn't going to be interested in copying the last guy's work, especially considering that he has vastly differing opinions on how to allocate money and what his priorities are.
re: What I believe and what I know
Posted by metafour on 10/5/26 at 4:47 pm to MrAUTigers
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That's not how it works.
By that logic........every coach, a school employs, has to leave their playbook when they are fired.
How is that comparable? Redmond was a football operations staff member and part of his job would have been compiling this data on behalf of the Auburn AD. The one thing to point out here is that he wasn't doing this by himself, so its not like this is proprietary data. He would have had subordinates under him assisting in evaluations, on top of actual members of the coaching staff who would have had to have been involved as well (otherwise how does Redmond know that the players that are on his board actually fit the team schematically?). For this reason, I can't see any scenario where the data is deemed to be owned by him alone.
Pretend that Freeze's staff was never fired and they just chose to fire Redmond and replace him with someone else: does he now take all of the data with him, even though everyone who worked with him to compile said data is still employed by Auburn? That doesn't make any sense to me.
This guy isn't a research scientist or inventor. His list of transfer portal targets can't be argued as intellectual property that belongs to him.
As a counter example: when a coaching staff is fired, the school retains ALL of the practice recordings from the prior staff. This practice-tape obviously contains play-designs, game-scripts, etc. that would have been tied to the previous staff's playbook and game-plans, but it is still deemed to be the university's property. I don't see how this would be any different.
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We hired an up and comer, just like FLA did. Difference is, we brought in a whole bunch of G5 coaches and G5 players. Our OC is a no name. Our OL coach is a joke.
But this doesn't explain everything. Oklahoma State did the exact same thing and they are 3-1 and they beat Oregon. They hired North Texas' coach and he brought all of his North Texas players. So far their offense is scoring just like it was at North Texas. So this strategy is currently working elsewhere. Yes, Ok State is in the Big 12 and not the SEC, but its still a big jump up in competition.
Furthermore, over the last two years most of you couldn't stop talking about how Freeze should have brought in the New Mexico State group of offensive coaches + Pavia + the TE from their G5 roster. Vanderbilt did that, and it worked. So you can't pick and choose based off of hindsight when you think its good to bring in G5 players and coaches, and when its not. Last season most of you didn't want to give any credit whatsoever to Clarke Lea for Vandy's success, it was all the New Mexico State coaches on offense and their G5 QB (Pavia). But now we suck because we have a bunch of G5 coaches on offense?
Unfortunately, its all a coin-flip with regards to who will work at this level, and who wont. Auburn has been in a death spiral where nothing seems to be working. Right now, the biggest miss to me is simply Byrum Brown. You can't do anything on offense with a QB who is turning it over ~3 times a game. He has no consistency whatsoever from play to play, and I can't fathom how you call plays around that. The OL is below-average so that obviously doesn't help either, but at the end of the day your supposed difference maker at QB who knows the system has looked bad.
And that has really been Golesh's biggest blunder in hindsight: he should have evaluated better without bias and let Brown go elsewhere based off of the flaws in his game not translating well to the SEC. But the reality is that most offensive coaches are going to stick with their guy who they have had big success with, and now Golesh is in a really bad spot where his guy is making a shite-ton of money and he likely can't fathom the idea of actually trying to see if T'ia can do any better.
re: Kayin Lee was the corner who snatched that interception out of Cam Colemans hands
Posted by metafour on 9/27/26 at 9:49 am to cadillacattack
I was contemplating bumping the "Cam Coleman" thread from late 2025 wherein multiple posters were arguing with me about Coleman's supposed "elite athleticism" and ability that we could not replace.
I told you guys then: his ONLY elite skill is his red-zone jump ball ability. This is an important skill to have, but truly elite WR's dominate in multiple facets of the game. Which Cam Coleman has literally never done in what is now his 3rd season of college ball.
He is not "fast". He is not strong or physically imposing. He is not freakishly tall. He does not run great routes. Cornerbacks are routinely stuck to his hip in coverage. He also seems to give half-arse effort so whatever athleticism he has is also negated by the fact that scrappier defenders will outwork him for the ball.
Has there been a more overrated supposed talent at Auburn in recent memory? This is a guy that most Auburn fans were convinced was a ~Top 3 WR in the entire country based off of ~3 marginally impressive catches over a two season stretch.
And lets not forget that like 3 of Thorne's interceptions were literally perfectly thrown balls that hit Coleman in the hands, which he proceeded to deflect into the air.
I told you guys then: his ONLY elite skill is his red-zone jump ball ability. This is an important skill to have, but truly elite WR's dominate in multiple facets of the game. Which Cam Coleman has literally never done in what is now his 3rd season of college ball.
He is not "fast". He is not strong or physically imposing. He is not freakishly tall. He does not run great routes. Cornerbacks are routinely stuck to his hip in coverage. He also seems to give half-arse effort so whatever athleticism he has is also negated by the fact that scrappier defenders will outwork him for the ball.
Has there been a more overrated supposed talent at Auburn in recent memory? This is a guy that most Auburn fans were convinced was a ~Top 3 WR in the entire country based off of ~3 marginally impressive catches over a two season stretch.
And lets not forget that like 3 of Thorne's interceptions were literally perfectly thrown balls that hit Coleman in the hands, which he proceeded to deflect into the air.
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/20/26 at 3:05 pm to jvilletiger25
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That’s a lot of typing. Kiffin wasn’t coaching old piss in 2015.
Oh, so its a retrospective argument that Auburn should have hired him back when his career was in the dumpster, or coming off his rehab OC stint at Bama?
Why stop there, then? They should have hired Curt Cignetti, lol.
Given what we know now, they should have fired Malzahn earlier and taken Kiffin from Bama. You can play that game indefinitely. At the end of the day the most realistic time to pursue Kiffin came in 2023, and like I explained: it made no sense for him to move laterally from Ole Miss at that point.
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/20/26 at 2:46 pm to Fear The Thumb
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Mario Critstobol
Lane Kiffin
These are both delulu.
Kiffin had Ole Miss playing above Auburn in the SEC West. There was zero reason for him to make that move when he could have stayed where he was at and waited for the NFL, LSU, Bama, etc. to come calling. Which is exactly what happened. Auburn was not a big enough potential upside at that point over what he already had at Ole Miss.
Cristobal had a cake-walk scenario at Oregon (tons of money and resources, playing in the PAC10 with USC down) and literally only left for his alma mater, which itself was only desirable because they got a huge influx of NIL funds. Cristobal had ~10 wins/season on lockdown at Oregon. Why leave that for a down Auburn program in the SEC West where a 10 win season is actually a huge accomplishment at this point? The idea of Cristobal leaving Nike money at Oregon for Yellawood and Auburn is a pipedream.
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/19/26 at 8:55 pm to wartiger2004
Guys, it was imperative that we force DJ Durkin down any prospective HC's throat so that he could keep all of his sick elite players on the roster :lol:
re: Jorts and Natty Light vs Cold Beer, Hot Rock, No Mercy UF vs AU Game Thread
Posted by metafour on 9/19/26 at 8:14 pm to makersmark1
Who remembers Mike G. spending months trying to goad the fanbase into pressuring the admin to hand Durkin the HC job, and then goading them into believing that Durkin HAD to be retained as the DC no matter who the HC was?
That dude knows nothing about football. Literally zero.
That dude knows nothing about football. Literally zero.
re: Auburn vs Southern Miss Predictions
Posted by metafour on 9/7/26 at 3:01 pm to Fear The Thumb
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24-10 Auburn, O line troubles and bad QB play continues to haunt us.
The same players were dropping 40+ points per game on teams like USM routinely just a season ago at USF, so why would they all of a sudden struggle to this degree against a G5 opponent? Byrum Brown will play badly vs. USM?
If they can't score more than 24 on USM then there are serious problems. I'm with smuphy: I think they drop 50+ points on them.
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He transferred to play for a better offensive coach
Did he? Sarkisian's offense has regressed in each of the past 2 seasons despite fielding elite talent. In fact, he is starting to develop Freeze-itis: he refuses to give up play-calling, even though the novelty of his offense has clearly started to fade.
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we need hood black kids.
What the frick are hood black kids going to do lmao? Soccer is a skill based sport, it's not a brute athleticism contest. Furthermore, you need to be tactically smart and disciplined to actually win anything. Hence why the African teams keep shitting the bed.
I can't believe we're in 2026 and Americans still think that they suck at soccer because some black kid from the hood is playing RB in football instead of kicking a soccer ball. The two sports have literally zero carryover.
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Bruce didn’t hire Steven. Cohen could have hired Ira Bowman as head coach.
Please don't blaspheme. The Auburn job was promised to Steven Pearl 3,000 years ago.
re: Why does Auburn owe Bruce Pearl's son anything?
Posted by metafour on 2/19/26 at 9:30 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Oy vey!
re: Did Duece Knight screw his self?
Posted by metafour on 2/13/26 at 7:51 am to Johnnycrane
Offered him $2M according to whom? To sit the bench?
Some of you need to think a little more critically.
Some of you need to think a little more critically.
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He recruited the best classes in UCF history and put players in the NFL. He was not a failure and he didn't run them into the dirt.
Sounds like you need to get the facts right. He inherited a winning program with an explosive offense, and by his 3rd and 4th season they were a losing team and getting worse. 50% of his seasons at UCF were losing seasons. That is by definition a failure, considering that he didn't inherit a losing program. It means the program declined under him, which is absolutely what happened.
Its also hilarious how his 3rd/4th seasons looked almost identical to the tail end of his Auburn tenure: UCF was a defense-driven team with an ugly offense that could only try to play the ball possession game. The games they did win were all generally slop-fests. He inherited a team that was humming to the tune of 40+ PPG scored.
And he was going to retire because he was failing, and UCF fans hated his product. He wasn't thinking of retiring because things were going too well at UCF.
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Thats not true. lets look at the last 2 NC outside Indiana. Mich was a senior laden team built from HS, OSU was not filled with transfers but built through top 3 HS recruting classes.
OSU won with a Senior transfer QB from Kansas State. They weren't filled with transfers, but the most important player on the field was a transfer.
And as mentioned above, you are referencing to teams that won during the 'transitionary' period before the Portal blew up.
Take a look at Ohio State's number of Portal additions per year:
2022: 2
2023: 9
2024: 8
2025: 10
2026: 16
So even schools like OSU (one of your examples) have been forced to gradually increase their usage of the Portal year over year. And you are seeing young 4 and 5-star HS signees from their roster leaving after 1-2 years (like the WR that visited us and ended up transferring to Notre Dame). Even OSU can't just keep everyone on their roster happy 24/7 under the current climate. They had 32 players transfer OUT in this current 2026 class.
The teams that are strong/competitive year over year will likely normalize into that 15-20 transfers-in per year range. Building through HS will still be important, but what Indiana has shown is that you need to go Portal heavy early in your tenure to establish the program, and then you can start shifting towards leaning on developing HS players once you have established a winning culture that will enticed those players to stay on instead of leaving. What Hugh Freeze tried to do was retarded: nobody has time to wait 3-4 years for a team full of HS players to mature. and those HS players aren't going to sit around for 3-4 years of losing football either.
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I still think HS recruiting needs to make up 80% of your program. Cig got lucky with Mendoza. But so did Chizik and O. I would rather have sustained success like Kirby.
He made the CFP last season as well with some no-name QB from Miami (of Ohio).
He didn't get lucky with anything. Their player development/evaluation is through the fricking roof. They have talent all over the field. The whole claim that they have no talent because someone didn't give them a 5-star rating is moronic. Their talent is elite, as proven by the dominance on the field.
On3 just launched their "Impact Rankings" (basically ranking the actual current players across the country as if they were recruits) and Indiana had something like 8 or 9 players on the Top 100 players nationally. One of them was the QB Josh Hoover who just transferred from TCU so you can exclude him, but the remainder were basically all under-recruited players that they have developed into monsters.
And its not all 24 year old Super-Seniors. They have players like this Charlie Becker kid who was the #80 WR (247 ranking) from Tennessee that came out of the same HS class as Cam Coleman and Perry Thompson. This kid was sitting in SEC country and Indiana snatched him up and he now ranks among the 100 best players in the country according to On3:
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Another example is LB Rolijah Hardy. This kid was a 0-star from Florida from that same 2024 HS class, and he is now ranked as one of the best LB's in the entire country. It is simply absurd scouting and development:
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It looks like Ole Miss is going to land Miami OT Tommy Kinsler:
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Ole Miss and Pete Golding are trending to land another transfer portal commitment, On3 has learned. Miami offensive lineman Tommy Kinsler has made visits to Auburn and Ole Miss, but sources tell On3 that the Rebels hold the momentum.
I’ve logged a prediction in favor of Ole Miss to land Kinsler, who can play guard or tackle. The 6-foot-6, 340-pound offensive lineman backed up offensive tackle Francis Mauigoa on this year’s Miami team, which played for the national championship on Monday night. Kinsler has two years of eligibility remaining.
The Ocala (Fla.) Trinity Catholic product was part of the 2023 high school class and is a former four-star recruit. The Rebels have lost five offensive linemen to the portal and have already brought in three. Kinsler would mark the fourth addition.
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Was a starter for the school he played for before transferring in.
You mean mighty Arkansas State? :lol:
Keyron Crawford would not have been a starter at LSU or Ole Miss either. You understand this, right?
You are now arguing that a player's specific circumstances are irrelevant. Which is idiotic. Being the backup to Jeremiah Smith at OSU is obviously not the same as being the backup to whoever was the #1 WR at Kentucky last season. They are completely different circumstances, even though both players are "backups".
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That player that was Ahead of Wommack left right? So why didn't they try to keep him.
Who says that they didn't try? His HS position coach (Wayne Dorsey) is on staff at Auburn and played a huge role in getting him here. He didn't even take any other visits, which means we clearly worked hard to push him straight to Auburn from Ole Miss.
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The light very rarely comes on in someones senior year.
He was in the regular playing rotation on one of of the best teams in the entire country. He even played in the CFP. You keep speaking as if he wasn't even able to get on the field. Again, he was considerably more productive at Ole Miss as a JR than Keyron Crawford was at Auburn in 2024 as a JR. Do you think its an impossibility for a contributor on an elite team to become a viable starter on another team?
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Faulk and Phillips we're buried on the depth chart and haven't done anything on the field and a week ago not a soul here would have cared if they transferred, but now they are ready to jump from not contributing to starter.
I have no idea what to make of Phillips, but Faulk was a true freshman last season. So whether or not he was a buried on the depth chart is irrelevant. They clearly prioritized keeping both him and Phillips on the roster, which is telling. Its not like Faulk wouldn't have been coveted if he had entered the Portal.
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How do we actually know Golesh is happy with that spot? For all we know he's as worried as I am.That's just a guess.
Because that spot has had minimal roster turnover. They have lost Crawford to graduation, and Amaris Williams to the Portal...and hat is basically it (counting Keldric Faulk as more of a DL). Caleb Wheatland also left, but that guy barely even saw the field. They have otherwise CHOSEN to retain basically all of the young & highly recruited talent that they had on the roster. This is telling because if you look elsewhere on the roster, there have been position groups where they have basically flipped the entire room over. And that includes young talent as well (eg: Donovan Starr at CB, who was in the same HS class as JJ Faulk). If they thought that they had nothing at Edge/DE, then you would have seen more aggressive cleansing of the roster. And this is supported by what they have done at positions like TE, WR, OL, etc. by comparison.
So like I said before: the staff is either higher on Womack/Nate Johnson than you are, or they are higher on the young players on the roster who they chose to prioritize for retention than you are...or both.
You can also look at their recruitment (or lack thereof) of Edge players in the Portal as proof. Who else other than Womack and Johnson were even brought in on visits? You would be able to tell that Golesh was "worried" if we had brought in a bunch more players for visits at that position and ultimately missed on them, but that isn't what happened at all. They basically prioritized two guys and landed both of them. There has been no scrambling to try to find more bodies, which is what you would expect to see if there was worry about the position.
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Back up, back up, back up.
You understand that players can progress from back up, to starter, correct? In fact, this is the normal progression for 95%+ of players on the field.
Keyron Crawford was a BACKUP in 2024 as a Junior. And he was a STARTER in 2025 as a Senior. Keyron Crawford did not start in front of Jalen McCleod. Why?
Like what are we even talking about here? Wommack is forever a "backup" because that's the role he had at Ole Miss...where he was playing behind one of the best Edge defenders in the conference? There is no fathomable scenario where he himself is projected to be a starter? Elite recruit Jared Smith can't be a "starter"? Why? Would you not expect a player of this caliber to progress into a starting role in year 2, and then go to the NFL in year 3? Like Keldric Faulk? Keldric Faulk didn't walk into Auburn as a "starter" LOL.
Like I said - the staff has clearly decided that they are happy with the players they have at that position. Which means that they believe they have a viable "STARTER". You are free to disagree, but your argument to date seems to be hilariously silly.
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