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Here are the Positives If Random is Correct.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:09 am
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:09 am
Let's say the plan does go through. Here is what you will have.
1)Arguably the best secondary coach and recruiter in the country in Raymond. (DBU)
2)Arguably the best D-line coach and recruiter in the country in Ogeron and Jenkins. (return of d-line U)
3)Arguably one of the best play callers and qb coaches in America in Kiffin.
4)Arguably one of the best defensive coordinators/lb coaches in the country in Aranda.
5)Arguably one of the best recruiters in the South East in Craig, His wr's seem to be getting better so he may be a pretty good technical coach as well.
6)One of, if not the best N.O. recruiters in Jabar J, No one can question the running back production this year.
So, you are down to Grimes, Bradley Dale, and S.E. I'd be surprised if O keeps Bradley Dale, there is a good chance this position could be an upgrade. Grimes is a maybe, grimes has proven to be a solid recruiter and technical coach. I wouldn't be shocked if he tried to bring in Kevin M. I think he probably keep's S.E. around as t.e. coach since he has kiffin for qb's.
That is as good as staff as any program in America can put together. I don't think that is the end of the world. I think lsu continues to recruit lights out, If O continues to let the coaches coach, there aren't many better at their respective positions, lsu would be fine.
No, this isn't a post to pimp O for the position. It is a post for those Melting over the "possibility" of O.
1)Arguably the best secondary coach and recruiter in the country in Raymond. (DBU)
2)Arguably the best D-line coach and recruiter in the country in Ogeron and Jenkins. (return of d-line U)
3)Arguably one of the best play callers and qb coaches in America in Kiffin.
4)Arguably one of the best defensive coordinators/lb coaches in the country in Aranda.
5)Arguably one of the best recruiters in the South East in Craig, His wr's seem to be getting better so he may be a pretty good technical coach as well.
6)One of, if not the best N.O. recruiters in Jabar J, No one can question the running back production this year.
So, you are down to Grimes, Bradley Dale, and S.E. I'd be surprised if O keeps Bradley Dale, there is a good chance this position could be an upgrade. Grimes is a maybe, grimes has proven to be a solid recruiter and technical coach. I wouldn't be shocked if he tried to bring in Kevin M. I think he probably keep's S.E. around as t.e. coach since he has kiffin for qb's.
That is as good as staff as any program in America can put together. I don't think that is the end of the world. I think lsu continues to recruit lights out, If O continues to let the coaches coach, there aren't many better at their respective positions, lsu would be fine.
No, this isn't a post to pimp O for the position. It is a post for those Melting over the "possibility" of O.
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:10 am to dos crystal
Now what if O has to replace that staff?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:10 am to dos crystal
Retaining Coach O would be a disaster.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:10 am to dos crystal
When O is fired in 3 years we can go get Fleck and not have to hear this shite about him needing more experience.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:12 am to dos crystal
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Arguably the best secondary coach
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Raymond
You sure about that?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:16 am to dos crystal
Aranda and Pete are on borrowed time.
Same with Kiffin IF he comes...
Same with Kiffin IF he comes...
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:17 am to c on z
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Now what if O has to replace that staff?
You continue to pay and get the top coaches in their respective areas expertise.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:19 am to dos crystal
the lone positive is that this years recruiting class would be great
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:19 am to Restomod
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Aranda and Pete are on borrowed time.
Same with Kiffin IF he comes...
agreed
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:20 am to dos crystal
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You continue to pay and get the top coaches in their respective areas expertise.
well that kinda negates all your positives then, right? because that is what any coach would do
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:21 am to sicboy
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quote: Raymond You sure about that?
Yep, Lsu has two first rounders and a third pro in the secondary right now. They probably have two to three eventual pros on the pine. Everyone wants him including the team we play this week.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:21 am to Duckie
I'm starting to think we shouldn't take ANYTHING we hear from here until January at face value. Not doubting Random knows people, but I find it hard to believe after last years fiasco that they would let any credible info leak out in any fashion.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:21 am to dos crystal
quote:So replacing your offensive and defensive coordinator every 2 years or so sounds like a sustainable program to you?
You continue to pay and get the top coaches in their respective areas expertise.
We would be dog shite
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:22 am to dos crystal
The plan is terrible because it depends heavily on having two coordinators who will most likely be head coaches soon.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:22 am to dos crystal
He's a great recruiter and we bring in some of the best talent at that position, but they definitely aren't the top coached unit.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:28 am to lsupride87
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So replacing your offensive and defensive coordinator every 2 years or so sounds like a sustainable program to you?
your right it is killing Bama, Michigan, and Ohio State right now.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:33 am to PennyPacker
Those programs have the 3 best coaches in the game. Lsu is considering promoting its dline coach who was a total failure at his only hc job. Totally different situations.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:35 am to lsupride87
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So replacing your offensive and defensive coordinator every 2 years or so sounds like a sustainable program to you? We would be dog shite
How you know we would be replacing every two years? What if Charlie strong is fired and you get him as d.c.? Great recruiter, proven to be one of the best d.c.'s in the s.e.c. for a long period. You only have him for two years?
Kiffin has failed as a h.c. twice. One, If you are paying him close to 2 million as a o.c., how many h.c's gigs you think he will get paying more? I doubt one of the big boys comes looking for him as a h.c., If he does leave, you think you can't find one of the best o.c's in the land at 2 mil?
You guys melted over K.S. too. That wasn't the end of the world. AU has one of the best defenses in the conference.
Clemson hasn't had problem replacing coaches.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 8:39 am
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:41 am to PennyPacker
quote:Kirby smart was at Bama for 8 years......
your right it is killing Bama, Michigan, and Ohio State right now.
There offensive coordinators have changed under Saban, but some are due to Saban giving them a gentle nudge in another direction
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:45 am to lsupride87
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Kirby smart was at Bama for 8 years......
but you say coordinators leave every two years.
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