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Define a better coaching job
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:07 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:07 am
All this talk about what job is better, Bama or Texas. Do we really know what makes a better coaching job?
Texas/ Alabama
Recruiting area. ?
Boosters with oil money ?
Opportunity to win 3rd BCS ?
Percentage of LHN ?
Not have a fanbase full ?
of gumptards
Texas/ Alabama
Recruiting area. ?
Boosters with oil money ?
Opportunity to win 3rd BCS ?
Percentage of LHN ?
Not have a fanbase full ?
of gumptards
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:08 am to Jack Daniel
You missed not having to live in Alabama
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:11 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
Percentage of LHN ?
Does anyone do any math around here??? Texass gets $15million from ESPN per year.
1% of $15M is $150K per year. Mack or Saban can make that much pitching cars at a local dealership or 2.
LHN percentage is nothing. N O T H I N G in the scheme of a $8M to $10M annual salary.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:12 am to Jack Daniel
In my personal opinion, they break down like this (just examples, not comprehensive):
All around best jobs:
Texas
Georgia
USC
History/Legacy jobs:
Notre Dame
OSU
Michigan
Quality of Life Jobs:
UW
UNC
I think Bama is in between categories 1 and 2. My ranking of UGA is also premised on someone winning a title there, otherwise it'll continue to be a powder keg.
All around best jobs:
Texas
Georgia
USC
History/Legacy jobs:
Notre Dame
OSU
Michigan
Quality of Life Jobs:
UW
UNC
I think Bama is in between categories 1 and 2. My ranking of UGA is also premised on someone winning a title there, otherwise it'll continue to be a powder keg.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 am to Jack Daniel
quote:Baka for the win.
All this talk about what job is better, Baka or Texas
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 am to Jack Daniel
Why anybody with the option would choose that shithole Tuscaloosa over Austin is beyond me.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 am to Tridentds
quote:
LHN percentage is nothing. N O T H I N G in the scheme of a $8M to $10M annual salary.
Not necessarily.
Saban going to Texas would be the biggest single boon for the LHN's value, and that's probably how they would play it up - do well, and the amount will increase.
Not to mention it requires zero effort on Saban's part. It won't be the dealbreaker but it's something (in addition to the other multiple incentives and bonuses in the contract).
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 am to Tridentds
quote:
Texass gets $15million from ESPN per year.
is this the only source of income for the LHN. They don't advertise or have any other revenue streams?
It's also in it's infancy too, right. I mean it was enough to cause a team to leave a confernece, so i have to think it could be a big deal.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
Recruiting area. ? Boosters with oil money ? Opportunity to win 3rd BCS ? Percentage of LHN ? Not have a fanbase full ? of gumptards
Yes, and you forgot the easy Big 12 schedule.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:22 am to piggidyphish
quote:
is this the only source of income for the LHN
Someone posted an interesting piece about LHN a litte while back. It seems that part of the LHN actually goes to the University an not the atheletic dept. The athletic dept take is something like 45% to 55% of the ESPN payment. I don't remember the final numbers exactly but the 1% of the athletic dept "share" was only around $65k per month which is way less than the $150K I threw out to keep the point simple.
I'm sure there will be some other revenue earned for local advertising but even if that is 2X the ESPN payment it still is an insignificant amount of money within the context of a $8M to $10M salary.
Someone like Saban would probably prefer not to receive anything from LHN if he didn't have to deal with them except for when he wanted to.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:22 am to Jack Daniel
-Recruiting territory
-Location relative to other "big programs"
-Fanbase/support
-Administration willing to do what it takes. Doesn't necessarily mean spend a ton of money, but just make improvements.
-Prestige & history are a good base and generally lead to the above points, but by no means do they guarantee success or a good job.
That's why I think LSU is a damn good job.
-Louisiana is deep with talent year in and year out
-No in-state competition and the closest "big programs" to BR are all 300+ miles away. (Ole Miss, Miss State, A&M, Arkansas, Auburn, Alabama)
-Passionate fanbase that will support the team.
-Administration willing to make improvements (Stadium renovations, Cox Academic Center, etc.)
-Location relative to other "big programs"
-Fanbase/support
-Administration willing to do what it takes. Doesn't necessarily mean spend a ton of money, but just make improvements.
-Prestige & history are a good base and generally lead to the above points, but by no means do they guarantee success or a good job.
That's why I think LSU is a damn good job.
-Louisiana is deep with talent year in and year out
-No in-state competition and the closest "big programs" to BR are all 300+ miles away. (Ole Miss, Miss State, A&M, Arkansas, Auburn, Alabama)
-Passionate fanbase that will support the team.
-Administration willing to make improvements (Stadium renovations, Cox Academic Center, etc.)
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:24 am to polydorr
quote:
amount will increase.
Incorrect. ESPN will not be increasing a 20 year deal because of a head coaching hire.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:25 am to Pettifogger
quote:
All around best jobs:
Texas
Georgia
USC
Georgia? Not in top 3. Maybe top 10. Top 5 is pretty much interchangeable.
Texas
Ohio State
Notre Dame
USC/UCLA
LSU
Alabama
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:26 am to Jack Daniel
Cutcliffe probably has a better coaching job than saban or Mack
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:27 am to tigerfan in bamaland
quote:
Cutcliffe probably has a better coaching job than saban or Mack
Depends on what he wants out of it. No/low pressure job? Hell yes. Ability to truly compete at the highest levels annually and be paid accordingly? Nah.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:28 am to Bloodworth
I think UGA is an all around top 5 job, when they get over the hump. It has the most raw potential of any SEC program at the moment, save maybe UF.
Nationally, coaching at LSU or Bama will always be considered a little different, separate, from coaching at Texas or USC. I think UGA is closer to joining those ranks. Growing school, good academic reputation, from a growing, well-regarded state, etc.
I hate UGA, but there is a reason kids from Highland Park in Dallas who can't go to Texas are flocking to UGA instead of Bama or LSU or Auburn. It has a much broader national appeal.
Nationally, coaching at LSU or Bama will always be considered a little different, separate, from coaching at Texas or USC. I think UGA is closer to joining those ranks. Growing school, good academic reputation, from a growing, well-regarded state, etc.
I hate UGA, but there is a reason kids from Highland Park in Dallas who can't go to Texas are flocking to UGA instead of Bama or LSU or Auburn. It has a much broader national appeal.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:29 am to Srbtiger06
True, saban may enjoy all the pressure.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:30 am to Pettifogger
Texas and FSU are probably the best jobs since they are in weak conferences. High school talent instate, inferior foes and $ should = a long rich tenure.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:30 am to Bloodworth
quote:.
UCLA
I dont see this near a top job because of how hard it is to get money. I believe mora is way underpaid but he just got an extension so maybe now he isnt
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