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re: Chavis v Moffit - the battle of LBs

Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:05 am to
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:05 am to
From her retirement party at Dauterive Hospital.

This was about 2 weeks ago.....
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:07 am to
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From her retirement party at Dauterive Hospital.


do what?
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:08 am to

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This was about 2 weeks ago.....


things change
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:10 am to
I only believe stuff from Iberia General
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:11 am to
Raymonds mother's retirement party

and things do change in the coaching game rather quick.....

Posted by pttigris
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:31 am to
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i don't fully disagree with this, but under miles it appears that we're going for the classic big10 look

big, powerful, slow

i hope he gives chavis full autonomy and the big/slow D was more bo p than miles



Guess we'll get to see where the bulk over speed thing comes from this year. Chavis has traditionally liked speed in the back 7 and on the end.

LSU has a D that can't be pushed around and we do well against the traditional O's but CFB is going a different way. We're facing an Alabama style O less and less. I'd like to see a change to a quicker and faster D also.

But it will also help not to have guys stand in position and wait for the ball carrier to get to them, as we did for most of the year. Looked hesitant all the time.

This post was edited on 12/30/08 at 11:33 am
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:35 am to
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i don't fully disagree with this, but under miles it appears that we're going for the classic big10 look


you really believe this shite? So, when Bo, a Big 12 coach (former Big 10 player) got to LSU, Les says to him, " you see these small, quick LB's we have, I'd like to put about 20 lbs on them and slow their 40 time by .3 seconds." Moffitt, who came from Miami, agrees, saying, " yeah, speed at LB is just such a waste, and it never paid dividends for me when I coached under Butch."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 11:41 am to
i just think they prefer the 250 lb LB to the 220 lb LB
Posted by Tigrus Maximus
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:01 pm to
I can agree that with Trev Faulk and Brady James(even though he's put on some serious muscle at Dallas), we had more speed at LB than we do with Beckwith and Riley. Is this what your getting at?
Posted by Ric Flair
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:17 pm to
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Trev Faulk


Wasn't his forty like a 5.0 (or 4.9 at best)?
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:20 pm to
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I only believe stuff from Iberia General


Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:23 pm to
Marvin Mitchell was one big slow frick at LB for Chavis. But that may be part of the rant saying he hasn't had any talent for the past decade.
Posted by Tigrus Maximus
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:36 pm to
I thought he was more of a 4.7 player, but didn't cause much of a stir in the draft because he was small.
Posted by pttigris
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:41 pm to
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Marvin Mitchell was one big slow frick at LB for Chavis. But that may be part of the rant saying he hasn't had any talent for the past decade.



Both Mayo and Mitchell came out of Va and he got them away from Va Tech and Maryland. No SEC school other than Tenn offered them if I am correct. Seems to have some connections in VA. Kind of strange.

Only guy Chavis has listed this year at Tenn is Shackleford out of Bama who has an offer from LSU as per Scout but is a soft verbal to TN. He is three star and #28 SS LB as per Scout. Will qualify.

Mitchell was a three star and Mayo a four star. Neither was top ten though Mayo was close at #11 rated OLB.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:45 pm to
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I thought he was more of a 4.7 player,


No he was slower than that. Also his reps of 225 on the bench was pathetic.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:48 pm to
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cutrera doesn't really fit the mold
I think he's more athletic than Marvin Mitchell was, and he thrived under Chavis.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:50 pm to
marvin mitchell could tackle and read a running play though
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:54 pm to
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marvin mitchell could tackle and read a running play though
coaching.

Beckwith looked really bad most of the time as well. . .
This post was edited on 12/30/08 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 1:59 pm to
beckwith regressed terribly with the injuries and all. his sophmore year in that arizona game i would've sworn that dude would've ended up a 1st rounder. He would close 10 yards in a heartbeat. This year he looked cripple.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 2:04 pm to
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beckwith regressed terribly with the injuries and all. his sophmore year in that arizona game i would've sworn that dude would've ended up a 1st rounder. He would close 10 yards in a heartbeat. This year he looked cripple.
That may well be part of the issue, but he was a MAJOR liability in the passing game most of the time. I don't know about injury recovery issues, but when the play goes left and he is running right. . .well. . .or when his guy is 20 yards downfiel, and he's standing in the box looking lost. . .

In my opinion, Cutrera played pretty damn well in relief of Beckwith, despite his own issues.

I think better coaching will correct most of the problems, though.
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