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re: Chavis v Moffit - the battle of LBs

Posted on 12/30/08 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 3:03 pm to
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beckwith regressed terribly with the injuries and all. his sophmore year in that arizona game i would've sworn that dude would've ended up a 1st rounder. He would close 10 yards in a heartbeat. This year he looked cripple.



MOFFIT!!!!!
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72500 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 3:18 pm to
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with hawkins at FS and mccray at SS



mccray over coleman?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72500 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 3:21 pm to
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his sophmore year in that arizona game i would've sworn that dude would've ended up a 1st rounder. He would close 10 yards in a heartbeat. This year he looked cripple.



couldn't agree more...DB looked like a complete psycho killer in that game. I thought he was going to be our best linebacker in the last 20 years.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 3:58 pm to
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i really think hawkins is our diamond in the rough to play as a roving FS



SFP, I have to respectfully disagree with you here... Now I think coverage wise, Hawkins would be a great FS, but as far as physicality, it's been a long time since I have seen a CB at LSU more afraid to come up and make a big hit on a RB running a sweep and I cant see him having any kind of beneficial affect as a FS when a big RB is running right at him. He is a soft CB, plain and simple, and I wouldnt see him as being any kind of great FS...

I could always be wrong, but after what Ive seen from Hawkins this year, nothing strikes me about him and an ability to play FS
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:01 pm to
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In my opinion, Cutrera played pretty damn well in relief of Beckwith, despite his own issues.



I completely agree... As much as I loved Beckwith, Cutrera will be an excellent upgrade at MLB next year... I saw a lot of progress with Cutrera from this year as compared to last, even though the defense sucked a lot worse this year...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:05 pm to
if our front 7 does their job, then our FS shouldn't have to make many tackles

if not hawkins, then jai

we need a guy who can cover in the worst way
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:07 pm to
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if not hawkins, then jai


I would be more happy with Jai back there... I thought he had the better season of the two (him and CH) and he was def. waaayyy more physical, in fact that was a strength of his. However, which ever way Chavis lines the boys up, I will be much happier than this past year
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:09 pm to
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if our front 7 does their job, then our FS shouldn't have to make many tackles



Also, even when we had Dorsey, Highsmith etc, Laron Landry was still the leading tackler from the FS spot in 2006-2007; obviously Laron was a beast, but he did have to make a lot of tackles even though the front 7 was really legit.

Curtis Taylor even made a good bit of stops in last years championship season, so I think FS has to be able to knock some heads when he has to, because there will be many times when he is the last man, but I do agree with you that we need better coverage out of the S position regardless
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46381 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:17 pm to
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we need a guy who can cover in the worst way


we need a FS who understands that he has to stay deep more than anything. hell, both of our safeties need this burned into their heads. Taylor and Coleman bit on way too much short stuff.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61742 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:18 pm to
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250 lb LBs and 4.9 LBs will be a problem under chavis


Appeared to be looking like a problem for us this year........with exception of Riley....who I like in the middle, I would love to see a speedier LB corps.

Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 5:29 pm to
i'm really curious to see how chavis is going to handle the LB's. i've read from several different sites that his D's are based around versatile, athletic LB's. i'm wondering if he'll tweak the lineup and move somebody like jones to LB and start baker. riley and sheppard aren't going to cut it in his current system
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16793 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 6:12 pm to
Robert Peace (6 3 235) also thrived under Chavis at LB.
Posted by wmrebel74
Member since Mar 2007
2839 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 9:27 pm to
If smaller LB's thrive under Chavis then new doors are opening for former WM Rebel Shomari Clemons
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291700 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 9:29 pm to
as long as he's better than jason ledoux, adam mcconathy and luke sanders, we'll be fine
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