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re: Blake Baker leading target for LSU DC position…lots of updates

Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:56 am to
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
3123 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:56 am to
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We’ll see the kind of pull Baker’s wife has-LOL


My wife and all her friends are from Mandeville. If she’s anything like them, the U-Haul’s been booked.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:00 am to
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People complained about that defense all season long. Vandy put up 38. Ol miss 37. Bama put up 41. Texas 38. Florida 28. Arkansas 20. People say Jayden would have went undefeated with Burrow’s defense but that defense wasn’t as great as some seem to remember. They did have some good games but more bad ones than good.


Some of those were bad QB’s, of course, but 2019 LSU also faced Sam Ehlinger, Jordan Love, Bo Nix, Tua, TLaw, Jalen Hurts, Jake Fromm, Kellen Mond, and Kyle Trask. Hard to be a top 1 0 defense when you’ve played two top 5 QB’s, a Super Bowl QB, another first rounder, 3 mid rounders, and freshman future first/second rounder.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9316 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:00 am to
The 2019 defense wasn’t terrible. It was big plays that killed them. But for the most part, that defense was pretty good from down to down. Texas made two big plays which made that game closer than it should have been. Plus it was the first game of the season in Austin Texas. I don’t remember them driving up and down the field consistently on us. They would throw it up and we played the ball, missed a tackle and the WR scored. The other play was that big Hback who was fast as hell on the slant where he got behind our safety and that was it. I’m not taking that away, they made the play, but they weren’t driving down the field on us regularly. Bama also had a lot of difficulty driving. After Ole Miss, the defense shut down Arkansas and A&M. They continued that in the SEC championship and playoffs. It just came together at the end.

The Florida game was different, they did drive down the field on us the whole game. The Bama game again had a big play on STs and two huge passes that made that game closer than it should have been. The game against Ole Miss was dominated defensively in the first quarter and a half. The score was 37-7 at one point and we stopped them on consecutive drives until they found that QB counter play we couldn’t recognize or stop.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
22051 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:06 am to
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It seems like bringing Baker and Raymond back in after he showed both the door just 2 years ago would be a huge hit to Kelly's reputation and an admittance of colossal failure on his part. Will he really do that?
If CBK is the professional I think he is, this doesn't even remotely factor into his decision making. It'd be like worrying about a 'sunk cost' in one respect. You look at the current set of information, which is different than what he had 2 years ago, and make a decision from there on who to pursue.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73100 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:18 am to
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People complained about that defense all season long. Vandy put up 38


Actually 24
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26559 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:21 am to
I was listening to the Marcelo interview with Jordy this morning and he said that Baker signed his extension but it hasn’t been approved yet by the board of supervisors. Is this the same as Denbrock?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28921 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:25 am to
Woodward loves the sleight of hand so I guess we'll see when we see.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24388 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:28 am to
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It seems like bringing Baker and Raymond back in after he showed both the door just 2 years ago would be a huge hit to Kelly's reputation and an admittance of colossal failure on his part. Will he really do that?


I'm not saying the coaches have to be from LA. But look at this years staff. Almost every offensive coach (sans Denbrock) had a tie to LA in some capacity. Not one of the D coaches had any ties.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
11910 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:28 am to
No-Denbrock did not sign his extension
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14906 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:35 am to
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Some of those were bad QB’s, of course, but 2019 LSU also faced Sam Ehlinger, Jordan Love, Bo Nix, Tua, TLaw, Jalen Hurts, Jake Fromm, Kellen Mond, and Kyle Trask.



Ok man, I see what you are doing here but putting Bo Nix on that list is just disingenuous. Yeah he had a good year at Oregon this year but he was freaking awful at Auburn.
Posted by chadr07
Rapides Parish
Member since Jan 2015
14783 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:38 am to
Well I hate to say it but Bo Nix made the LSU defense his bitch two years in a row unfortunately. So you can’t hound him too hard.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14906 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:46 am to
Did he?

15/35 157 4.5 1 1 56.6

Hmm.., I guess we have a difference of opinion on what consists of “making someone your bitch” because those stats….. are not impressive at all to me.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
20573 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:04 am to
Here we go again with you dumbasses and your idiotic bullshite: “Derp! Dat 2019 defense wuz bad! Dey giv up all dem pernts!”

Most all of those points were garbage time points when games had been decided. Funny how you bullshite artists never mention that, when it counted, Dave Aranda’s 2019 defense shut down Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson in a row, huh?

Now shut the frick up. By any measure, Aranda’s defense in 2019–in this era when offenses no longer line up in an I formation—was a great one.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 11:07 am
Posted by Superfluous Tiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
1033 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:14 am to
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I find it hard to believe that there weren’t some people that were very pissed off when Woodward came asking for $5.5 million and more money to hire new coaches.


I’d have a harder time believing the football program wasn’t under immense pressure by the majority of people who pay for these things to do exactly what Kelly did.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
22051 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:51 am to
I don't know exactly what those Bo Nix stats are, hard to tell. But I do know he pulled a few plays out of his arse to beat us that one year.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96236 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:59 am to
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We had the #1 total offense in FBS. #1!


With a Heisman QB, a generational WR, great OL play (especially in that game), etc.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12516 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 12:10 pm to
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He has been a mixed bag at Mizzou. First half of 2022 season, our D was stellar. Second half of the season the SEC had enough film on him the D went to shite.

This year the D was not good to start the year. No way around it. It got better as the year went on but still had a piss poor performance vs Florida and a mediocre day vs UGA. There were good performances vs South Carolina, Tenn and Arkansas. By far the best performance all year was against tOSU but a lot of that might have been because their OL was dogshit.

Overall, if i had to guess i'd say Baker is probably a top 20-30 DC nationally right now. The question is whether he is going to adjust to everyone having more data on him now and improve? If not, he'll start falling pretty fast. Personally I dont think he is worth backing up the brinks truck for at this point. He needs more experience and proven record.


This a quote from a Mizzou fan on the SEC rant when I asked their thoughts on Baker as a DC and it sort of confirms my thoughts.

Yes, Baker was a great LB coach for us in 2021 but he has never had much success as a DC. He was fired from Miami and has been up and down at Mizzou.

He would definitely be an upgrade from House but he seems more like a Pete Golding hire than a Dave Aranda hire. He's a good recruiter and players love him but his defenses just aren't dominant from week to week.

If we get him, I will be happy cuz its better than House but I'd much rather a hire like the guy from NC State that has actually fielded good/great defenses before.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
3123 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Yeah he had a good year at Oregon this year but he was freaking awful at Auburn


He wasn’t great, but he was 2-1 against LSU. Always makes me laugh when specifically LSU fans claim he ran from the SEC, because he owned us for 2 years before leaving.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted by eetiger
Baton Rouge via Eunice
Member since Mar 2006
1943 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:50 pm to
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My wife and all her friends are from Mandeville. If she’s anything like them, the U-Haul’s been booked.


So they're swingers?
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
54036 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:58 pm to
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Funny how you bullshite artists never mention that, when it counted, Dave Aranda’s 2019 defense shut down Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson in a row, huh?


I literally broke down multiple games. There is absolutely ZERO garbage time in one score games. Choose to remember how you want. I don’t have to resort to name calling but know that you’re wrong.
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