re: All the info so far on Dave Aranda

Posted by thelawnwranglers

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:22 pm to crazy4lsu

Should have just made him HC

Posted by noonan

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:22 pm to cas4t

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So we will go into a bidding war for a coordinator, but not HC

Exactly.

Posted by Hulk Krogan

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:25 pm to castorinho

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Castorinho

Keeping Aranda always seemed to be priority #1 in every discussion about this search. If that's true, it would make sense to gauge his feelings in potential hires.

Posted by castorinho

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:28 pm to Hulk Krogan

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be priority #1 in every discussion about this search. If that's true, it would make sense to gauge his feelings in potential hires.

I get that. It's just a very weird dynamic

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Posted by omegaman66

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:30 pm to castorinho

Weird yes. But smart... also yes!

Posted by blackmouthcur

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:30 pm to TheDrunkenTigah

If Orgeron sticks the OC hire, retains Aranda, holds this recruiting class and is able to rapidly implement a talent and opponent evaluation staff to rival Bama's, then he will have my unabashed support. He has his work cut out for him. Geaux Tigers!

This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 2:32 pm

Posted by aero1126

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:31 pm to castorinho

The funny thing is, if LSU decided to go into a bidding war to get Herman, they may not have had to do that to retain Aranda assuming they got Herman.

Posted by Mr. Hangover

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:32 pm to TheDrunkenTigah

I just want to believe that there's no way lsu would retain O without knowing for sure they were keeping Aranda

Just my opinion though

This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 2:33 pm

Posted by Vood

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:36 pm to TheDrunkenTigah

Aranda is GONE. He is moving on to bigger and better things.

Posted by AlaTiger

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:40 pm to TheDrunkenTigah

And, if he wants to coach in the NFL, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a look this year. So, he'll leave for the NFL possibly in February? Great.

What top DC will come here and coach for O?

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Posted by I20goon

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:44 pm to castorinho

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Is it me or is it kinda fricked up that you consult the DC about the HC position.

conventionally, yes. In this situation, no (not in my opinion).

And in business such things are happening more and more often. Used to a supervisor reviewed his direct reports only. It is becoming somewhat common for reports to review their supervisor. It is the better source for information. Some people see it as the 'inmates running the asylum', but that assumes the employees are the inmates. If you discard that assumption, and consider the supervisor the inmate then relying on his review/judgement exclusively for a whole list of people (i.e. your the supervisors boss), then you are potentially limiting you information on all of them.

by the way, as DrunkenTiger was pointing out all the Aranda leaving stuff is based off the assumption that he does not work well with or doesn't want to work for CEO. That might not be a good assumption. Good or bad assumption, there's lots of bias going into all these threads right now to prop up (or shoot down) assumptions.

This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 2:48 pm

Posted by wilceaux

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:53 pm to TheDrunkenTigah

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I just think if you read between the lines he will be here until the NFL comes calling.

Well, the NFL is knocking on the door, so this doesn't make me feel better.

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Posted by ForeLSU

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:58 pm to castorinho

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Is it me or is it kinda fricked up that you consult the DC about the HC position.

In this case, no

This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 3:00 pm

Posted by Colonel Flagg

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:00 pm to AlaTiger

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What top DC will come here and coach for O?

You can only assume LSU will potentially be paying $2+ million on coordinators to offset the cheaper Orgeron. So they should be able to get whoever they want.

Posted by misey94

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:03 pm to blackmouthcur

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If Orgeron sticks the OC hire, retains Aranda, holds this recruiting class and is able to rapidly implement a talent and opponent evaluation staff to rival Bama's, then he will have my unabashed support. He has his work cut out for him. Geaux Tigers!

Job one to win the smart fans- fire Peveto. At the very least, move him to an off the field position in admin. This has to happen.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah

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Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:06 pm to wilceaux

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Well, the NFL is knocking on the door, so this doesn't make me feel better.

I didn't post this to necessarily make anyone feel any better, just noticed there's a lot flying around. The NFL coaching carousel gets going much later than college and presumably he'll have just signed a large contract when that cranks up. I'm sure if an NFL team really wants him they could buy that contract out, but by the same logic I would assume most NFL teams willing to do that will want to see him reproduce the same success next year at LSU. College coaches are always a gamble at the next level, in fact I think that helps LSU here. LSU provides him with the talent and schedule to show he's a slam dunk.