This is the yearly touting of my playoff system idea. I think this idea will get even better once all BCS conferences have a championship game.

Here it is:

Take the BCS conference champions plus two at large...eight teams total. The two at-large teams would be the highest ranked teams in the BCS poll that did not receive the automatic bid.

Amendement 1: BCS Conference champions must be ranked in the top 12 in order to get a playoff invite.

If you can't win your conference, you will need to be an at-large team to enter the playoff.

Don't give me this baloney that regular season games will have less meaning. Seeds will be determined by current BCS rankings. Therefore, playing a tougher schedule could get you the higher seed and the coveted home field advantage in the first round.

We need to move power away from the pollsters and computer polls that are determining who plays in the title game. This is preposterous. It is a joke. And potentially corrupt. Granted, in my system, the BCS ranking will still be used to determine the at-large teams, in addition to seedings. But the BCS poll will not get to decide the two teams that will play for the title, like is the case today. What we currently have is a complete joke of a system.

Eight teams mean three weekends of games. First round games are played at the higher seed's home stadium.

Semifinal games would be on same day at two different major bowl sites (eg, Fiesta and Sugar).

Final game will be at a third major bowl site. One major bowl would get left out each year of the playoffs, but could pick whatever teams were leftover.

To give you an example of dates:
First round: Dec 18, 2010
Semifinals: Jan 1, 2011
Finals: Jan 15, 2011

I dare anyone to come up with a plan better than this that removes as much bias from the selection process, addresses logistical issues with travel, appeases the college presidents that think the season is too long as it is, and generates as much interest.

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TheFranchise

I think the best way is to incorporate a few "play-in" games the same weekend as the conference championships.

For example, this year Boise St might play the PAC10 regular season champ and TCU might play the BigTen regular season champ. That eliminates at least two possible contenders.

It keeps the bowl structure in place so the pro-bowl crowd doesn't object as much.

Reply•151 months

loweralabamatrojan

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We need to move power away from the pollsters and computer polls that are determining who plays in the title game. This is preposterous. It is a joke. And potentially corrupt. Granted, in my system, the BCS ranking will still be used to determine the at-large teams, in addition to seedings. But the BCS poll will not get to decide the two teams that will play for the title, like is the case today. What we currently have is a complete joke of a system.

Exactly freaking right.
:cheers:

Reply•151 months

Michael J Cocks

XIV actually posted the best plan I've ever seen.

Reply•151 months

Chicken

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XIV actually posted the best plan I've ever seen.

you mean the plan in which there may or may not be a round of playoff games? good luck with that...

151 months

LordoftheManor

my issue has already been mentioned. a scenario where a one-loss SEC team could be eliminated by SECCG

Reply•151 months

JG77056

I can't think of any year in which more than 4 teams have had a legitimate beef about playing for the title. So when they decided to add another BCS game a week after the others, why didn't they just make that the +1 game.

You have the top 4 teams in the BCS rankings play each other in 2 of the 4 BCS games, the other 2 can pit the left over conference champions and any at large teams still eligible after that. Then the winner of the 2 playoff games play a week later in the BCS championship game.

You don't lose or gain any bowls and only 2 fewer teams make a bowl than currently do. Each team that makes the BCS title game will get the money paid for 2 BCS bowls and you'd have to think conferences would like that incentive.

Reply•151 months

Gmorgan4982

If you're not going to give teams in the MAC, C-USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and WAC a fair shot, why don't you just propose that these conferences form their own subdivsion?

Reply•151 months

Buckeye Fan 19

Great idea.

151 months

Chicken

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why don't you just propose that these conferences form their own subdivsion?

that is not for me to propose, but I am guessing that would be program suicide for many of these schools.

Anyhow, there are already two groupings in Div 1-A...BCS and non-BCS...

151 months

Baloo

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If you're not going to give teams in the MAC, C-USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and WAC a fair shot, why don't you just propose that these conferences form their own subdivsion?

That's my largest objection. Either these schools are D-1 or they aren't. Either they have a mechanism to play for the title like anyone else, or kick them out of the division and make it against the rules to play those teams except in exhibitions.

Make it so BCS teams can only play each other.

I like the small schools getting a shot for two reasons: ONE, it gives a mechanism for every single team to have a shot at the title no matter how remote and TWO, it gives the top teams a reward by playing the weakest teams.

151 months

Slickback

I'm a fan of a 4 team playoff. Keep the BCS for seeds.

#1 plays #4 - BCS Bowl #1
#2 plays #3 - BCS Bowl #2
National Championship - BCS Bowl #3

This would only extend the season one game for two teams.

Yes, one BCS bowl would get left out each year. Let them choose their matchup for their bowl. No restrictions. They can pick from any teams, bowl eligible, besides the #1-#4 ranked teams.

I think people looking for 8 or 16 team playoffs are asking for too much. Too drastic of a change IMO for the NCAA to go to that.

Reply•151 months

lsu480

I say we make the entire season one big single elimination tourney. THAT would be awesome!!!!!!

Reply•151 months

Michael J Cocks

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I say we make the entire season one big single elimination tourney. THAT would be awesome!!!!!!

:lol: agreed.

151 months

Baloo

The standard 16-team format with 11 conference champs and 5 at large bids played at home site is probably the one that addresses most people's concerns about the current system. I'm not in love with it, as I'm against at large bids, but I think it's the best system that's been popularly suggested.

Reply•151 months

Chicken

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The standard 16-team format with 11 conference champs and 5 at large bids played at home site is probably the one that addresses most people's concerns about the current system. I'm not in love with it, as I'm against at large bids, but I think it's the best system that's been popularly suggested.

I think this is WAY too many teams...and it adds another week to the schedule (a sore spot with some school presidents).

But it is in line with my idea in that it leans heavily on conference champs. I think this is the key.

151 months

Gmorgan4982

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I'm not in love with it, as I'm against at large bids

Me too. That's why my preferred system would be a 12-team playoff with one at-large team.

151 months

H-Town Tiger

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Take the BCS conference champions plus two at large...eight teams total. The two at-large teams would be the highest ranked teams in the BCS poll that did not receive the automatic bid.

If you can't win your conference, you are on the outside looking in

so in other words you are just taking the top 8 conference winners.
Which means a 4 loss team that wins the Big East or CUSA would get a hot at the NC but an 11-1 LSU that lost to Auburn and didn't win the SEC gets left out.

No thanks. The BCS >>> Than this

Reply•151 months

Chicken

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Which means a 4 loss team that wins the Big East or CUSA would get a hot at the NC but an 11-1 LSU that lost to Auburn and didn't win the SEC gets left out.

whoa...slow down...CUSA is not a BCS conference, and if LSU wins out, they are likely to move ahead of TCU, giving LSU an at-large playoff bid (assuming Boise State gets the other).

151 months

reddman

I thought xiv had an interesting way to do it.

LINK

Reply•151 months

Tigerbait337

I just can't bring myself to approve of a system, that promotes teams to schedule easy competition.

151 months

Big Saint

Conference champs should be included if they finish in the top 10 of said polls. I'm tired of the Big East champ taking a spot in these games yet being ranked 15-20. If there are that many teams better than a conference champ why shouldn't they get the shot instead?

Reply•151 months

Chicken

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Conference champs should be included if they finish in the top 10 of said polls.

this has been considered...but I wouldn't want to give too much power to the polls in this scenario.

151 months

SlowFlowPro

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Take the BCS conference champions plus two at large...eight teams total. The two at-large teams would be the highest ranked teams in the BCS poll that did not receive the automatic bid.

this isn't good enough for "them" anymore

Reply•151 months

Tigerbait337

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If you can't win your conference, you are on the outside looking in.

I just dont like the fact that a top ranked Florida team can go undefeated all year, and lose to Alabama in an SEC Championship game (a game in which half the conferences don't have) and be ruled out.

That Florida team was better than every other team, including a Big East winning Cincinnati, as shown in the Sugar Bowl.

Reply•151 months

The Easter Bunny

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That Florida team was better than every other team, including a Big East winning Cincinnati, as shown in the Sugar Bowl.

They would have been in last year, and undefeated Boise left out. Thanks a lot, Chicken

151 months

molsusports

that florida team would still have received an at large bid as a very highly ranked team in teh BCS

It's not a bad system... my major problem is it still allows in awful conference champs who don't deserve a shot at a NC after already losing a few games

Hell, If Auburn is eligible this year I don't think LSU deserves a shot in the playoff... they had their shot against Auburn already and lost the game

151 months

NOTORlOUSD

I like the "Chicken Plan". The debate between eight or sixteen teams is tricky. Eight teams would be easier for both logistics and convincing the existing power structure. A sixteen team playoff would eliminate all complaints, but it would open up the "importance of the regular season" arguments and piss off the bowls.

151 months

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The Easter Bunny

Chicken, this idea is sooooooo old, but it still doesn't solve two of the main problems people bitch at the BCS about:

1. It still uses opinion polls/computers
2. It still can leave out undefeated teams (Boise in 2009, for example)

Reply•151 months

Chicken

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1. It still uses opinion polls/computers

you will never eliminate that...you need them, at the least, for seeding...and you will need them for picking an AQ runner up (eg, LSU) over a non-AQ team like TCU.

College Baseball and College Basketball have computers (RPI) and humans deciding their playoff field and seedings. This is no different.

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2. It still can leave out undefeated teams (Boise in 2009, for example)

It would only be left out due to weak scheduling on their part.

151 months

LSUandAU

I like the 8 team approach, but would just take take the top 8 in the BCS period. Too bad for number 9. Better to leave out number 9 than number 3 from a chance like now.

151 months