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New Apple TV 4K (4th Gen) announced - $299
Posted on 10/13/26 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/13/26 at 9:32 am
quote:
The upgraded Apple TV 4K (4th Gen) features a significantly faster A19 chip, Siri AI (in some countries), AV1 video decoding and much more, but no HDMI 2.1 support for 4K120.
Capacity
128GB
Connectivity
Wi-Fi 7 (802.11be) with 2x2 MIMO3
Bluetooth 6
Thread networking technology
HDMI 2.1 (only eARC, QMS, 4K 60fps max)
IR receiver
Built-in power supply
Gigabit Ethernet
Microphones
Three-microphone array with voice isolation
Siri Remote
Bluetooth 6
IR transmitter
Find My with Precision Finding
USB-C connector for charging
Rechargeable battery
Charging via USB-C cable to computer system or power adapter (each sold separately)
Control your TV or receiver via IR or CEC
Processor
A19 chip
Video Formats
Standard SDR/HDR video rates up to 2160p, 60 fps
Dolby Vision (Profile 8.1 and 5), HDR10, HDR10+, HLG
AV1, VP9, H.265/HEVC, H.264/AVC, MPEG-4
HDMI Quick Media Switching (QMS) for seamless format transitions
Support for 21:9 and other cinematic aspect ratios when playing movies and shows on compatible projectors and displays
Audio Formats
HE-AAC (V1), AAC (up to 320 Kbps), protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (up to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Apple Lossless, FLAC, AIFF, and WAV; AC-3 (Dolby Digital 5.1), E-AC-3 (Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 surround sound), and Dolby Atmos
Siri AI9
Siri AI, an entirely new version of Siri powered by Apple Intelligence, helps you discover what to watch, draws on your personal context, and answers questions on virtually any topic
Activate hands-free with your voice using “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or press and hold the Siri button on the remote
Protected by the strongest privacy of any intelligent assistant
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This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/13/26 at 9:41 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
no thanks.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:06 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
They've lost their frickin minds with that price.
No reason to upgrade. AI and shite is the last thing I need on my streaming box
No reason to upgrade. AI and shite is the last thing I need on my streaming box
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:11 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
quote:
Capacity 128GB
I mean if memory prices continue on their current trajectory it might be worth it just for that alone...
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:25 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
They needed to step it up with audio. I'm sure it will be a very snappy streamer, but $300 is steep. I'll stick with my Shield Pro with the AI upscaling and audio passthrough of DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, etc..
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/13/26 at 11:25 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand the demand for these boxes? I have a smart TV, and I have several subscriptions that I access directly from my TV (including AppleTV).
Is this box and other similar boxes made for people that don't have a smart TV?
Is this box and other similar boxes made for people that don't have a smart TV?
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 11:26 am
Posted on 10/13/26 at 11:45 am to slinger1317
quote:
Is this box and other similar boxes made for people that don't have a smart TV?
Issue is that built in TV OS:
1. Are loaded with spyware
2. Age quickly
3. Don’t support a lot of apps.
4. Often can’t handle or don’t support media servers that typically serve movies at 4x-10x the quality of “streaming services.”
5. Often don’t support DRM-free apps like tivimate or kodi.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:37 pm to Dallaswho
I have a 3 year old Roku Ultra and every app on it outperforms the same app on my TCL8k.
Picture quality, motion handling, app responsiveness, it’s all better
Picture quality, motion handling, app responsiveness, it’s all better
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:40 pm to Dallaswho
quote:
Dallaswho
Thanks for the reply. What you said makes sense. I have a smart tv and just use basic streaming apps so it does the job for me. I can see where people who need something more robust would opt for a better OS.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 4:53 pm to Dallaswho
quote:
Often can’t handle or don’t support media servers that typically serve movies at 4x-10x the quality of “streaming services.”
Yea i want to start switching stuff to AV1 but i have too many clients that are crappy smart tv's that can't play it.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 5:18 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Ridiculous price. Current ones before today were over priced for what Apple does with them.
Adding far field mics to the actual device on top of the one in the remote also make this a no without a hard wired on/off switch. Apple sucks at software these days as Tim went bargain based with software, and they rely on others to catch their mistakes and don’t do a good job at patching quickly. tvOS is already like it’s step-child and gets little attention outside of the shared code with iOS and iPadOS. I doubt they will stay on top of mic access on their own and will have bugs galore to exploit.
Apple will not even enforce one video player to have consistency with interfaces between video services. I would love to go back to original one where swiping up brought up play functions and swiping down brought down description and other settings & info. I am forever moving my thumb 1 mm when pausing/unpausing or rewinding/scrubbing and unknowingly shifting selection to captions or some other setting.
Somehow Prime has channels for Peacock and HBONow while Apple only has their apps while also making it more difficult to distinguish existing channels from apps. The home screen was supposed to be the owners according to Tim, but then Tim allowed it to be theirs to push their crap, others crap, and political crap. I have control of the top row of what I have started to watch.
Don’t need Siri much less SiriAI on my AppleTV with Apple’s current lack of focus, lack of tvOS home app, and lack of pushing home hardware product that they already have multiple key parts in their supply chain that can be used.
Apple TV has stayed a hobby and had a lot of potential wasted, and now they want to sell a new one to have same lack of support at $300.
Homeview? Could have added a cheap iPad screen and distributed work and storage with Apple TVs years ago, but somehow Apple TVs are a home hub without actually having the home app.
Tim’s handpicked successor who basically only knows Apple and Tim’s way was another move away from being visionary. He even tried to dress like Tim’s dorky arse. Tim was a great operator, a supply chain wiz, and a record breaker at buying back stock to prop it up; but he was a horrible tech visionary, an even worse leader, and a hardcore DEI believer and pusher.
Adding far field mics to the actual device on top of the one in the remote also make this a no without a hard wired on/off switch. Apple sucks at software these days as Tim went bargain based with software, and they rely on others to catch their mistakes and don’t do a good job at patching quickly. tvOS is already like it’s step-child and gets little attention outside of the shared code with iOS and iPadOS. I doubt they will stay on top of mic access on their own and will have bugs galore to exploit.
Apple will not even enforce one video player to have consistency with interfaces between video services. I would love to go back to original one where swiping up brought up play functions and swiping down brought down description and other settings & info. I am forever moving my thumb 1 mm when pausing/unpausing or rewinding/scrubbing and unknowingly shifting selection to captions or some other setting.
Somehow Prime has channels for Peacock and HBONow while Apple only has their apps while also making it more difficult to distinguish existing channels from apps. The home screen was supposed to be the owners according to Tim, but then Tim allowed it to be theirs to push their crap, others crap, and political crap. I have control of the top row of what I have started to watch.
Don’t need Siri much less SiriAI on my AppleTV with Apple’s current lack of focus, lack of tvOS home app, and lack of pushing home hardware product that they already have multiple key parts in their supply chain that can be used.
Apple TV has stayed a hobby and had a lot of potential wasted, and now they want to sell a new one to have same lack of support at $300.
Homeview? Could have added a cheap iPad screen and distributed work and storage with Apple TVs years ago, but somehow Apple TVs are a home hub without actually having the home app.
Tim’s handpicked successor who basically only knows Apple and Tim’s way was another move away from being visionary. He even tried to dress like Tim’s dorky arse. Tim was a great operator, a supply chain wiz, and a record breaker at buying back stock to prop it up; but he was a horrible tech visionary, an even worse leader, and a hardcore DEI believer and pusher.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 6:29 pm to dallastigers
quote:
Tim’s handpicked successor who basically only knows Apple and Tim’s way was another move away from being visionary.
Apple hasn’t been visionary in a long time and if they started acting that way, their stock would plummet. They’re a multi trillion dollar company because they operate a very lucrative tool booth racking in ridiculous percentages of any services delivered through their ecosystem, all for doing basically nothing. They’re have way more to gain by keeping hardware familiar vs cutting edge.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 6:45 pm to dallastigers
quote:
Apple will not even enforce one video player to have consistency with interfaces between video services. I would love to go back to original one where swiping up brought up play functions and swiping down brought down description and other settings & info. I am forever moving my thumb 1 mm when pausing/unpausing or rewinding/scrubbing and unknowingly shifting selection to captions or some other setting.
I’m with you on this one.
Can’t stand the differences between Netflix video player and apple’s and F1’s and Disney’s etc.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:09 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
lol why would you buy this when you can get the Nvidia Shield Pro
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:11 pm to slinger1317
quote:
Is this box and other similar boxes made for people that don't have a smart TV?
Stop using integrated smart tvs for streaming
It’s awful. And DONT buy a FireTV. It’s bogged down with 20 Amazon apps that you can’t delete
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:00 am to VermilionTiger
I don’t know… I have a brand new cheap arse no name tv on my patio and the builtin apps stream football just fine. I have a spyware LG in my living room and those apps are pretty fast. Adding a 30% markup for a third party streamer seems a bit much. My phone is listening anyway, who cares if my tv is too. It can scan all my smart lightbulbs it wants on my network.
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