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Home audio system: Yamaha vs. Klipsach vs. Sonos vs. Polk

Posted on 3/9/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 8:49 pm
I am trying to find speaker system for my house, could use some help, haven't bought before but had somebody told me to stick to these 4 brands. They all appear on several "best home audio list" so I imagine they are all good, but between them does anybody have any experience between them?
Posted by crawfishcharlie
Crawfishtown, USA
Member since Dec 2003
4874 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:35 am to
Klipsch...
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
2026 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:14 am to
Those are all acceptable brands - if you have the time, go to your local audiophile shop or Best Buy and spend some time in their Mahogany Room listening to various systems - will give you more options to consider.
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1541 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:16 am to
My recommendation is Klipsch speakers and Denon receiver. That said I also use some Bowers & Wilkins speakers that I'm quite happy with. You may also want to consider a brand that specializes is subs for bass. Most point to SVS for that but they are expensive.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20030 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:39 am to
Depending on the Klipsch model, they can be very harsh/bright to many folks. Do not buy Klipsch w/out an in person demo or at least a very good/easy return policy. The higher end Klipsch tend to be less bright (less forward in the high frequencies).
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:46 am to
While there's nothing wrong with them I would consider all of those beginner brands and an intro into mid-fi. As mentioned already it's pretty important to do A/B listening to different brands for comparison.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3480 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:40 am to
Lot of good stuff out there but do research. Lot of difference in sounds.

Had Yamaha receivers and all Klipsch speakers for years and thought they were great.

But now trying Marantz receiver with a combo of Matin and Logan speakers with SVS subs. Different sound but every bit as good.

Do your homework.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79560 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:16 am to
Golden Ear Technology
Posted by BuzzdLightBeer
Member since Dec 2018
183 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:16 pm to
Reference Premiere line ONLY for Klipsch, the rest are just too harsh of a sound and lead to fatigue. The RP line has a much better horn set up and sound great.

Sonos is ecosystem dependent and has overall mediocre sound for the price and you are stuck in their ecosystem

Cambridge, Triangle, Polk, Elac etc for speakers

Denon/Yamaha/Marantz for AVR
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
15652 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:12 pm to
Check SVS speakers too. I have definitive technology speakers and Denon receiver. 1 of my 4 subs is SVS which I've been pretty happy with.
Posted by pheroy
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2006
738 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:28 pm to
By "home audio system" do you mean a soundbar, 2 stereo speakers, surround sound, or what? For music, TV, movies or a mix? And of course there's the omnipresent question of what is your budget?

For basic sound any of the 4 you list have competent setups available, they aren't crap. As mentioned Sonos is different from the other 3 in its design and intent.

There are some other good brands mentioned in the replies, but depending on the answers to above they might not be a fit and you'd want to do a little more homework.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:52 pm to
A budget would help.
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
537 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:45 pm to
I basically meant like TV/movies/music, speakers in den with stray speakers throughout other rooms in the house +/- a soundbar. I'd like to stay under $1,500 total for entire setup, but if I can get a deal, I wouldn't mind going up to $2,000
Posted by GolfingTiger
Gonzales
Member since Oct 2004
292 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:15 pm to
Check out Paradigm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:20 pm to
Good suggestion. To me it’s about the tweeters. I can’t stand metal tweeters. They fatigue my ears. One reason I have Dynaudio
Posted by EsquireReb
Member since Jan 2014
126 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:46 pm to
For the money, I've had no problems with Klipsch. I like SVS but that is a little pricier. If you are on a little bit more of a budget, there is a company called Jamo which I believe is owned by Klipsch or under the same umbrella if I remember right. I just put it in one of my rooms. It isn't the best but it also didn't cost an arm and a leg. Just depends on your budget.

This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 4:48 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10026 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 6:48 pm to
I prefer speakers with rubber or similar flexible connections between the speaker and the housing. Polk has seemed to do this consistently, but every brand has different lines of differing quality.

I've never been disappointed in Sonos units, but I've never done them in wall (I think we had 7 individual units.) I would not say Yamaha, Klipsch, Sonos, or Polk were bad. Kinda like saying, "do you like your Samsung TV?" Well, which line? The one that cost $4k for a 65" or the Samsung that was $400 for a 65"?
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 6:49 pm
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13105 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

I basically meant like TV/movies/music, speakers in den with stray speakers throughout other rooms in the house +/- a soundbar. I'd like to stay under $1,500 total for entire setup, but if I can get a deal, I wouldn't mind going up to $2,000


Might be a challenge at that budget, but I like what you are trying to do.

You'll need to spend minimum $500 on a quality AVR with multi-zone capability. My preference is Denon. Marantz (same parent company as Denon), Yamaha, and Pioneer all make nice units as well.

Denon now has a technology called Heos. Heos is Denon's version of Sonos-type of wireless sound distribution throughout the house. That might work for you.

You'll want quality speakers in your den and elsewhere. Absolute bare minimum price would be $100 per speaker (and not really "quality", but you'll have "sound")....x 4 in your den, x 2 on your patio and/or kitchen, other "stray" rooms....and this adds up quickly. $500 AVR + speakers would now be $1,100-1,300 before labor and tax.

You can save money by just doing a soundbar and a sub for your den, and have more to spend on getting sound to other areas of your house.

Agree on the high quality SVS sub, if wanting to do a nice 5.1 system in the den.

So many options. I hope this helps.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28365 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 1:36 am to
quote:

I prefer speakers with rubber or similar flexible connections between the speaker and the housing.


What is the hypothetical advantage of doing this? I have been building speakers as a hobby for a long time and I have never run into this. All (decent) speakers should have a gasket of some sort behind every driver to prevent leakage and it is just as important with a sealed box as a ported box but that should hold the speaker essentially stationary and lock it onto the baffle. Any appreciable movement here would begin to act like a passive radiator as well as changing the baffle diffraction characteristics as it moves relative to the baffle.


To the OP a few points:

1. speakers even at the same price point are "voiced" very differently and will have characteristics based on the construction and materials of the drivers, crossover, and box itself. Each choice is a compromise and what you gain here forces you to lose something somewhere else. Asking for the best speaker at a price point is like asking which is the best crawfish boil recipe.

2. this leads to what YOU like, the only way to determine this is to listen to a lot of speakers preferably with your own test tracks. A lot of people don't like bright speakers (Klipsch, B&W, Mission, Focal are brands that tend to be bright) but one man's bright is another man's detailed and one man's warm will be another man's veiled. I like hard dome tweeters that are a little "hot". Beryllium, ceramic, and diamond domes are right up my alley and I have heard titanium domes I liked... I don't think anyone really likes aluminum domes. I won't say silk or other soft domes are bad but even the ones made by Scan Speak or Dynaudio just feel lacking to me but that is just my taste. Also, be away a slightly bright speaker can be tamed with setup most of the time by having no toe-in or even a slight toe-out. Give me a slightly bright speaker, with a wide horizontal dispersion, good sound power, with an analytical midrange forward soundstage, laser imaging and a slight mid-bass hump and I am in heaven, others would recoil from the same speaker. It is all taste because there is no speaker that approaches perfect reproduction even in the high 6 figure price range. This means you have to learn your own taste.

3. As much as I hate to say it with your needs and budget a Sonos system may be perfect for you. It will likely be the simple and inexpensive way to get the flexibility you want. If you just wanted a 2 channel system or a simple 5.1 surround sound system I would have other recs but wanting a multi-zone system really points to Sonos at the price range.
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1541 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:22 am to
You have options. But really need to figure out how how many zones and many speakers you want to run in each. As well as if they are in the ceiling/wall, need to be wireless, or in a situation where a soundbar work would work.
Obtuse is good about explaining the various sound profiles of speakers but I disagree with him that Sonos is the way to go. I stick with my earlier recommendation about Denon. As someone mentioned, HEOS is Denon's way of connecting and controling multiple receivers, speakers, and sound bars. Works very well and can play music from all the popular streaming services.
Denon sells factory refurbished if you need to save $$$. A refurb AVR-S970H costs $599 (normally $799) and can run 5.1 in your den and then 2.1 in another zone like a patio. Denon also has HEOS-enabled sound bars for TVs in other rooms as well as 3 sizes of wireless speakers that can all be grouped together in the HEOS app for when you want the same music playing throughout the house or parts of the house depending on how you group them.
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