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dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
But apple isn't trying to limit it. They are saying they are, but they aren't actually doing anything. They control the ecosystem, if they wanted to ban Google and Facebook they easily could. But they would lose revenue. They could eleminate Google as a search engine on safari all together, but that would cost them 9 billion. So they are saying they are concerned about privacy, all while not actually doing anything about it. And people are giving them credit for this. Once again, saying everyone is doing it and that it is unavoidable in the digital age is not the same as glossing over it.

And even if you do not use any Google services, if you visit a website that is hosted on Google servers, of which there are millions, then your info is still going to Google

So just to keep a running list, if you want all your privacy protected you have to:

Use no third party apps
Use no Google services
Use no Facebook services
Do not use iCloud
Turn off all cookies
Use extremely limited search engines
Do not visit any websites hosted by Google
Do not send SMS/mms messages
Delete any location services
Do not use uber, lift, or any other app that uses mapping
And finally, hope and pray that all of these tech companies that say they are concerned about privacy are actually telling the truth.

And can someone actually show me something concrete that Google does with your data? Something nefarious with actual proof might change my opinion. Everything I have read so far just says that they do not actually sell any data to third parties, but they use the data to provide targeted advertisements. According to the privacy policy, no third party ever has access to your data


dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
As a follow up, you say that 48 states are investigating Google's data collection. Do you have a link for that. I have read 2 articles on it, and it only says that 48 states are investigating Google for antitrust violations in that the company is price gouging advertisers since they have a dominant market share. Nothing at all about any concerns on privacy, or data collection.

I just want to clarify that, because sometimes if things get repeated on here they become fact. And I very well could be wrong, since I only looked at the top 2 links on Google search haha. And we all know about their algarithms.

CBS news article


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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
It's part of the antitrust investigation, several articles in regard to that reference their data collection and business behaviors in the first few articles when search for it using a Google engine.

Glossed over the articles too, I see.

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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton — who is leading the new antitrust probe by state attorneys general from 48 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico — said the investigation will focus on Google’s advertising business, “but the facts will lead where the facts lead.” At a press conference Monday, attorneys general emphasized Google’s dominance in the ad market and use of consumer data.


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dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
You have a link to any of this. Just read through 3 articles from the past 24 hours and don't see any one referencing anything about abusing customer data.

Didn't gloss over them either, read every word and provided a link

I know found the one you quoted, it had one line stating that looking into how they handled customer data would be part of the investigation. Hardly a smoking gun to some nefarious activity. I would hope that anytime they are doing an antitrust investigation they are looking into every aspect of the company.

And I have never stated that Google didn't abuse our privacy. I stated that everyone does, and it is unavoidable. Also, to hold apple up as some high standard of security, when they literally sell access to the company you are demonizing is pretty ironic.

To do that, definitely takes some glossing over of the facts
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BuckeyeFan87
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
I see the insecure droiders have popped in to boost their confidence in their decisions.


Never fails.


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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
This must be what it’s like when LSU fans make their way to the Bama football board


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dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
Dumbest reply in a 6 page thread. I haven't said one good thing about Google...


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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
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Didn't gloss over them either, read every word and provided a link


No you didn’t, it talked about it in several I quickly briefed. Waste your own time searching for more articles that you will just argue about anyway.

You don’t care about privacy concerns with your phone, great. Some people don’t treat it as an all or nothing issue and that’s fine too. Some people do take the steps you talk about going all in, I know several people that still use “dumb” cell phones. Some people go half way. It’s a valid reason for phone choice. Let’s move on from this issue as reasonable people do see a difference here.
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dltigers3
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So you are saying that you read all the articles, but don't have time to link them? Makes sense. Then say let's just move on instead of addressing any argument of mine.

Once again since you don't seem to grasp this. I was never arguing anything about if Google collects data. I was responding to the guy that said people who use Android services were "dumb" by letting him know that apple does the same thing.

And I agree, I know plenty of people who are very concerned about their privacy. I know 2 that use dumb phones. Of course they also have iPads and use YouTube, Google search and go to websites. Which is really the point, it's 2019, privacy is a thing of the past. And pinning it all on Google and thinking that getting a new iPhone is the answer is fanboy bs.


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Dumbest reply in a 6 page thread. I haven't said one good thing about Google...


I know my reply is to you, but it wasn’t directed at you. It was a general reply to the past few pages
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Dam Guide
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
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So you are saying that you read all the articles, but don't have time to link them? Makes sense.


I looked it up and quoted one and saw several. You can easily google search and find more. It wasn't that hard for me to find the quote. It's from the AGs speech on the subject.

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Then say let's just move on instead of addressing any argument of mine.


ok, sounds good to me, you just want to be argumentative in a thread about an event anyway.


dltigers3
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Gotcha, I even went back and looked to make sure I hadn't said anything and saw where you were talking about waiting on the pixel 4 haha


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dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
But back to the original question I posted in here, what is the best time to buy? We are looking to trade in my wifes 6s for an XR, and we can get it for 499 right now. Does apple usually post any better deals? Wait for Black Friday?


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We are looking to trade in my wifes 6s for an XR, and we can get it for 499 right now.
Where is this deal?

ETA: NVM, didn;t know the XR was cheap to begin with ($599)
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dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
Yes, looks like they dropped the price a little on it already, and will give us $100 on tradein


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barry
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
1) naming it pro and keeping the lightning charger is bullshite
2) the iPhone 11 at 700 is a good deal, storage be damned, I use cloud storage anyway. What is this 2014?
3) the screen is the only marketable difference for me and 99% of people, telephoto is great and all, but meh

So will I pay 300 for an OLED display.....ugh


The Levee
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
man this thread went to shite....


How can I reduce the amount of space taken by iMessage attachments? Do I have to go in there and delete each media?


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BeepNode
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
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2) the iPhone 11 at 700 is a good deal, storage be damned, I use cloud storage anyway. What is this 2014?
3) the screen is the only marketable difference for me and 99% of people, telephoto is great and all, but meh

So will I pay 300 for an OLED display.....ugh


Same thoughts here, except I like the lightning cable. I wish it had rapid charging but the 11 will last all-day easy and I will use wireless charging.

I currently have a Pixel 2 so the screen will be a downgrade, but I am not going to pay $1,000 for a phone. I'll either get the 11 or last year's XS once good deals can be found on them. I simply miss the iOS/Apple ecosystem.

Is the white 11 actually an off-white? If so.. meh.


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TigerGman
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
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But apple isn't trying to limit it. They are saying they are, but they aren't actually doing anything. They control the ecosystem, if they wanted to ban Google and Facebook they easily could. But they would lose revenue. They could eleminate Google as a search engine on safari all together, but that would cost them 9 billion. So they are saying they are concerned about privacy, all while not actually doing anything about it. And people are giving them credit for this. Once again, saying everyone is doing it and that it is unavoidable in the digital age is not the same as glossing over it.



The point is that's a users choice to use Google search and Facebook. You don't have to and Apple itself Isn't gonna sell your date to the highest bidder like Google does...


dltigers3
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re: Apple Event 9/10/19
Dude, I'm done derailing this thread. Show me once piece of evidence that Google sells your data? Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.

They use your data for targeted marketing and to improve services. And they make a shot ton of money doing that.


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