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MLS vs Premier League

Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:18 am

Since it is St Louis City's first season I am now watching MLS for the first time. I have followed and watched Liverpool for about ten years or so but really only watched their matches.

My question is - How bad is the MLS compared to the Premier League?

Would the top team in the MLS be able to finish middle of the pack in the Premier League or would a squad like Everton tear up the MLS?

Through watching three STL City matches the MLS just looks like garbage compared to what I've watched with Liverpool.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6880 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:20 am to
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Would the top team in the MLS be able to finish middle of the pack in the Premier League

Nope.
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would a squad like Everton tear up the MLS?

Yep.

MLS best is top half of Championship…maybe.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:21 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69126 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:27 am to
Part of it for me is the tv presentation, the announcers, and the sounds from the fans.

Just a completely different experience.

I’m watching the Fulham arsenal game. What mls grounds are like craven cottage? Atl United was a fun team to watch when they came into the league, but they play in an nfl stadium. Idk, just a diff feeling. Can’t quite explain it.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:29 am to
I had that feeling. I just don't know how good the best in the MLS is.

I am just completely dumb when it comes to the MLS. I should have started following a couple years ago when STL City was announced as an expansion team.
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:39 am to
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Part of it for me is the tv presentation, the announcers, and the sounds from the fans.

Just a completely different experience.


Agree
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6880 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:42 am to
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I’m watching the Fulham arsenal game. What mls grounds are like craven cottage? Atl United was a fun team to watch when they came into the league, but they play in an nfl stadium. Idk, just a diff feeling. Can’t quite explain it.


Most PL teams come from an organic origin steeped in the local working class identity. So the texture of the game is more localized, whereas MLS teams were planted by the larger market cities. It’s only now MLS is starting to “bless” smaller markets like STL. Case in point, STL deserved a team historically than Chicago, but they were the larger market to begin with, lacking the localized identity. Hence ATL has the feel of being more corporate.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
903 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:27 am to
Yeah… I’ve played or watched soccer all my life. Remember the Man U treble in college and love it. To me it’s history…even some teams in lower leagues are 100 years or older… MLS can’t compete with that.

Some MLS teams wouldn’t even beat lower level clubs that move through the FA Cup beating higher clubs. Presentation and USA commitment to soccer is much lighter than in England too. Think of it this way. There are 92 professional soccer teams in a state the size of Alabama. Proximity, travel, and rivalries all play a part in the EPL atmosphere.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2546 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:16 am to
I can’t stand the constant fricking drums. It’s like attending a match in Guadalajara
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6606 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 1:22 pm to
Prem is poor to compare to because even the other top leagues don't compare well to them. The top MLS team wouldn't get relegated in any other league though.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33230 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 2:05 pm to
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I have followed and watched Liverpool for about ten years


Sounds about right.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
14002 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 4:02 pm to
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The top MLS team wouldn't get relegated in any other league though
The top MLS team is generally quite mediocre. The gap between the great MLS teams and the average MLS teams isn’t that great

Any MLS club gets fleeced with a quickness
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125495 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 4:24 pm to
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The top MLS team wouldn't get relegated in any other league though.


LMAOOO
Posted by Mike Joyce
Member since Jan 2021
393 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:50 pm to
There is a still a gap but it is certainly closing. In 5 years the MLS will be on par with the French or Portuguese league. In 10 years I am confident we will be on a par with the Premier League. Especially if the 2026 World Cup goes well.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9741 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:00 pm to
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In 5 years the MLS will be on par with the French or Portuguese league.

I think this is very optimistic.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6880 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:26 pm to
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There is a still a gap but it is certainly closing. In 5 years the MLS will be on par with the French or Portuguese league. In 10 years I am confident we will be on a par with the Premier League. Especially if the 2026 World Cup goes well.


Doctor, I’d like what this gentleman is having, but please increase the dosage by 300 milligrams.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125495 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

There is a still a gap but it is certainly closing. In 5 years the MLS will be on par with the French or Portuguese league. In 10 years I am confident we will be on a par with the Premier League. Especially if the 2026 World Cup goes well.


Not a fricking chance

The structure of MLS won’t allow it
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:05 pm to
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The top MLS team wouldn't get relegated in any other league though.


? They'd get relegated in all of the top 5 leagues at the very least
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:06 pm to
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In 5 years the MLS will be on par with the French or Portuguese league. In 10 years I am confident we will be on a par with the Premier League




How can you talk confidently about something you don't understand
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 8:07 pm
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10935 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:24 pm to
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finish middle of the pack in the Premier League


quote:

top half of Championship


Man, I hate to say it, but the mid-bottom table of the PL is just the Championship teams who survived at least a season., and ironically, don’t usually go back up again (with some weird exceptions like Norwich)
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
6606 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:49 pm to
At least? Dude are you really trying to sell me on LAFC getting relegated in leagues even further down like Portugal or Netherlands? I mean there is a lot of Prem pumping here like on reddit that shits on non-English football, but acting like it's a given the top MLS team can't beat 3 yoyo clubs from the other leagues is a bit much.
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